From: "Bill Tyner"
To:
Hi Mary,
Try Tinner, Tinnen which is the claimed origin according to one of the commercial coat of arms outfits and from a gazateer notation. I think the Tiner/Tyner we know is several spellings removed from the original. What do you think? I plunked Tinnen into the Alta Vista search engine and got a lot of German hits, both people and the places.
Bill Tyner
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> From: Mary Anne Kbel
> To: tynerlist at scott.net
> Date: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 12:10 PM
> Neither Tyner or Tiner are to be found in: the German Who's Who (Wer ist Wer) nor in the largest German encyclopedia (Brockhaus) nor in the telephone directories of our region.
> Tyner Cousin Mary Anne in Germany
ThatBeBob at AOL.COM wrote:
> Hi,
> I looked through my Tyner file and I believe the book that Norm referred to is:
> The Tyner Family - The Descendents of Elijah Tyner of Effingham County 1760 - 1840 Thomas Heflin Compton 10380 East Pike Drive, Inverness, FL 32650
> He cites some other references:
> The Tyner Family and Some Other Relatives - Max R. Tyner (Max is or was on the List. Hi, Max.)
> The Tyner Family - Peggy Townsend Tyner - Route # 2, Box 555, Springs, N.C. 28377
> Tyner, Tymes, Then, Today - Judith Lamb LaForge - 2434 East Contessa, Mesa, AZ 85203
> +++++(Note from Judith Lamb LaForge Rittenhouse Carpenter) Copies of this book are available at the following places: Mesa Family History Library, Mesa, AZ; Wallace State Community College, Hanceville, AL; DAR, Washington, D.C.; Washington Memorial Library, Macon, GA; Salt Lake City Family History Library, Salt Lake City, UT; Tennessee State Library & Archives, Nashville, TN.+++++
> The Tyner Family - Earl and Velma Tyner - 4619 Fremont, Boise, Idaho 83704
> The Tyner Family - Olive Lewis Kolb - 4343 North 100 West, West Lafayette, INd. 47906
> Tyner, Faulkner, Taylor and Other Connections - Mayme Tyner - Route # 1, Box 16, Laurel Hill, FL 32567 (I came across this one years ago in Wilmington, NC library. It has lots of abstracted sources, some of which I used in my John Tyner post about a week ago.)
> I have another title page which may be one of the above:
> The Tyner Family 1699-1978 - published by Milton Ray Lawthorn , Route 2, 301 Trail of Merlin, Garner, NC 27529.
thanks for all your help on this genealogy project. best regards DENNIS WARD
FAMILY GROUP RECORD FOR NICHOLAS OLIVER TYNER /"MARGARET??" OLIVER Date prepared 2 Nov 1999
HUSBAND Nicholas Oliver TYNER
BIRTH: Abt 1637 PLACE: England
DEATH: Will Dated 28 Sep 1708 PLACE: Isle of Wight,Virginia,"North Carolina"
FATHER: PARENTS:
1) Sir Robert Lord of TYNER MANOR-7810 - [Not proven] Biological
MOTHER:
OTHER WIVES:
NOTES: Nicholas Tyner was supposed to have immigrated from Liverpool in 1679 with 5 children and no wife. He purchased property in 1681 and again in 1692. Will dated 28 Sep 1708
Virginia Mag. of History Vol. 29 P342
A list of her Majesty Qt Rents in the Isle of Wight Co., Virginia for 1704 list - Nicholas Tyner - 300.
On Dec 9 1693 Nicholas Tiner served on the Grand Jury of the Isle of Wight County, Virginia.
http://www.geocities.com/cheezz51/FamilyWebCards/WC05/WC05_309.HTM thinks this Nicholas was born in England abt 1637, and his wife's name was something Oliver, possibly Margaret Oliver.
http://ivanlewis.com/genealogy/sones.html says Margaret Oliver, too.
In the"Court Orders, Isle of Wight Co., Va., 9 Dec. 1693" we find among others,
"Nicho. Tiner,.... being summoned on the grand jury and not appearing, sheriff is ordered to summon them to next court to show cause (if any) for their default."
Nicholas had various transactions in the buying and selling of land, such as:
"Nicholas Tyner, to William Williams, 300 acres northwest of ye branch, where Sarah Sowells alias Thomas now lives; April 1, 1707, For 500 lbs. of tobacco."
Nicholas left a will dated 28 September 1708, which was probated 9 February 1708-9. He was listed in the Isle of Wight Will and Deed Book 2, page 489.
In the name of God Amen. Ye twenty eighth day of Sept. in ye year of our God one Thousand Seuven Hundred & Eight I Nich's. Tyner in ye Isle of Wight County in Virg'a, being very sick & weak in Body but of sound mind & memory, thanks be given unto God, Therefore, Calling to mind ye mortallity of my Body and knowing it was appointed for all men--to dye, doo make this my last will & testament (that is to say) principally & first of all, I give and commend my soul into ye hands of God that gave it, and for my Body I remand it to ye Earth to be buried in a Christian like & decent manner at the discretion of my Exec., nothing doubting but at ye General Resurrection I shall recover ye same again by mighty power of God. And as touching such worldly Estate wherewith it hath pleased God to possess me in this life I give and devise & dispose of the same in ye following manner and form:Imprimis: I give unto my son Nich's. Tyner & bequeath my plantation where I now dwell containing one hundred & thirty acres of Land, more or less, with all housing & Orchards & all other appertenances thereunto belonging; after my decease I also give unto my loving Sound Nicholas --- of a Tract of Land
in ---? in ye upper part of sd. Tract containing three hundred acres & also three hundred & forty acres on ye portion where Robert Thomas doth live, & also forty head of cattle on another, & also three Heifers, one two year Ould Mare Running in ye Woods, & two Mares & Colts more & all my Stock of Hoggs & all my debts due to me after my decease eighter by Bills or accts. that Justly is due to me to him & his heirs.Impr. I give unto my daughter Margaret two Cowes & Calves & ye plantation where shee now lives in Rockahock, being ye remainder of part of ye Land before given to her & her heirs.
Impr: I give unto my daughter Mary five Cowes & Calves & also two hundred acres of Land on Curroughway Swamp being ye plantation that formerly was Tho. Manns with one Iron pott with hooks, pott Racks, One feather Bed & Bolster & pair of Sheets & Blanketts.
Impr: I give unto my daughter Margaret (---?) One Iron pott with Hooks and pott Racks & one Ould Bedd & one pr. of Blanketts & one Sheet.
Imp: I give unto my Daughter Elenor Five Cows & Calves & one young Mare called Shabby, One small pott with pott hooks & pott Racks with one feather bedd wch. I now lye on, my ---?, one Rugg & pr. of Blanketts & one pr. of Sheets.
Impr: I give unto my Daughter Sarah one Cow & Calf, if shee will have it and noo more.
Impr: I give unto my Sound Nicholas my own Riding Horse called ---------?
Impr: I give unto my Daughter Mary one young Mare called Bonney.
Impr: I give unto my Sound in law Edward Packett one bald faced Mare.
Impr: I give unto my two Daughters Eleanor & Mary one mare called Fanny & her increase, and my Sound Nicholas to divide ye increase between them.
Impr: I give unto my Sound Nicholas Tenn sides of Tanned Leather, I also give unto my Sound Nicholas three Iron wedges & all my Carpenters Tools.
Impr: I give unto my three Daughters Margarett, Mary & Eleanor my Household Stuff yt is not already given Excepting one great Bason & one small Bason & Each of them one Stack of Bees, and two Stacks of Bees unto my Sound Rich'd Tyner & all ye rest of my Estate I give & desire it may be equally divided
among ye rest of my children Excepting my Daughter Sarah, & my will is that Shee shall have noo more than is already given to her.Imp: I give unto my daughter Eleanor one hundred & fifty acres of land wch.
I formerly bought of James Curlee, more or less I say to her & her heirs.Impr: I doo hereby Consistute, authorize & appoint my loving Sound Nicholas Tyner of Isle of Wight County my whole & sole Exec. of this my last will & Testament & to fullfill this my last will & Testament, and I do hereby utterly disallow, revoak & disanull all & every other former Wells & Legacys, Re---? & Execs. by me made in any way or before this by me named, willed & bequeathed. Rattifeing & Constituting this & none other to be my last well & Testament. In witness whereof I have hereunto sett my hand & fixed my Seal ye day & year before mentioned.
His
NICHOLAS (T) TYNER
mark & sealSigned & sealed in ye presence of us
James his (E) mark Johnson
Francis his (F) mark Corbett
Francis his (FS) mark Seagrave
Proved in open Court held for Isle of Wight County this 9th of Feb'ey 1708/9 to be the last will & Testament of Nich. Tyner by the oaths of all the witnesses and probate ordered to his Sound Nich. Tyner, Exec. therein named.
Teste: Chas. Chapman, Clerk
Children of NICHOLAS TYNER and MARGARET OLIVER are:
i. ELEANOR TYNER, b. Abt. 1667; m. WILLIAM ASHLEY.
Notes for ELEANOR TYNER:
On Feb. 25, 1711 William Ashley and wife, Eleanor; then living in Albemarle County, North Carolina; sold 100 acres in the lower parish of Isle of Wright County, Virginia to Nicholas Tiner.
ii. MARY TYNER.
Notes for MARY TYNER:
On Feb. 25, 1711 Mary Tiner; then living in Chowan, Albemarle County, North Carolina; sold 200 acres in the loer parish of Isle of Wight County, Virginia on Corowaugh Swamp to Nicholas Tiner.
iii. RICHARD TYNER.
2. iv. NICHOLAS TYNER, b. Abt. 1662; d. December 12, 1752, North Carolina.
3. v. SARAH TYNER, b. Abt. 1668; d. Aft. 1710, Chowan Precinct, Albemarle County, North Carolina.
4. vi. MARGARET TYNER, b. Abt. 1685.
Generation No. 2
2. NICHOLAS TYNER (NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1662, and died December 12, 1752 in North Carolina. He married ELIZABETH ?.
Notes for NICHOLAS TYNER:
http://ivanlewis.com/genealogy/sones.html
Claims wife was Elizabeth Mahon
http://www.bbtyner.com/tyner/tyner9.htm
I am submitting the following records for distribution. I think they will complement the "Loose Papers" from Jeanne Spain. Bertie Countie is the parent county of Northhampton Co. I think it is significant that William Tyner (son of Nicholas ??) died in Bertie Co. in 1760 and his only son William was in Granville Dist. SC shortly after. Is this son William the one who died in 1780 in Northhampton Co? I would appreciate any feedback.--James RussellBERTIE COUNTY NC RECORDS
Colonial Bertie County North Carolina Deed Books A - H 1720- 1757Book F. page 49 - 7 Feb 1739 - Deed of Gift NICHOLAS TYNER & WIFE ELIZABETH to WILLIAM TYNER 300 Acrs "for the value & Liberty & Tollaration therein & thereon during my natural life" Land on Sou. Side Maherrin River & Sou Side Little Swamp. Wit. J. Dew, jurat; Richard Barley. Feb. Ct 1739
Book F. page 50 - 7 Feb 1739 - Deed of Gift from NICHOLAS TYNER, Sr. to NICHOLAS TYNER, Jr. 400 Acrs "...for the value & respect that I bear to my son Nicholas Tyner, Jr." Land on SW side Little Swamp adj. John Barnes. Wit: J. Dew, Richard Barley Feb Ct 1739
Book G. Page 218 - 10 Mar 1748 - Joshua Stevans to WILLIAM TYNER 200 lbs for 190 Acres on N side of Chinkapin Swamp adj Richard Homes. Wit: John Freemann, John Davison, Sr. Nov. Ct. 1749
Bertie Co. NC Court Minutes 1740 - 1743 & 1758 - 1762 Book II
Page 461 - 23 Jan 1759, William Tyner appointed Overseer in the Room of John Smith.
Page 502 - 23 Jan 1760, John Burress appt. Overseer in Room of Wm. Tyner
Page 534 - 14 Oct 1760 - The Last Will & Testament of WILLIAM TYNER, decd. was exhibited into Court by WILLIAM TYNER, Exor & c. and proved by the oaths of Thomas Mewborn & Richard Sowell, subscribing witnsses thereto and at the same time the said Exor. was Qualified. An Inventory of the Goods & c. which were of the Estate of William Tyner, decd. was Exhibited into Court by William Tyner, Exor.
Page 573 - 7 - Apr 1762 - On Motion of William CURL Attny at Law in behalf of William Tyner for the Division of Ye Estate of Willm Tyner, decd. Granted & Ordered that John Smith, John Freman & Josua Burs be or any two of them appointed to divide the same & Ordered Yt the same be Sold?
Deed Book L-2 9 Feb 1771 Wm. TYNER of Granville Co. SC sells to Francis Johnston and John Ramsey of Bertie Co. for 30 lb Proclamination Money 190 acres on North side of Chinkapin Swamp joining Richard Homes. Witness Henry Ortland, Rebecca Tyner, Mar. Ct. 1771.
Deed Book M 1772 - 1775 20 Jul 1772 John Ramsey of Bertie Co. to John Campbell, merchant of said Co. for 20 lb. Proclaimation Money, my half of 190 acres which I purchased from William
Tyner, held in joint Tenancy with the Rev. Francis Johnston. Wit. F. Johnston, James Campbell Dec. Ct. 1772. ( Note attached to deed indicates the deed of Tyner to Johnston & Ramsey located on pages 235 & 236 of Deed Bk. L-2.)Deed Book M 1772- 1775 17 Jul 1773 Francis Johnston Minister of the Gospel of Bertie Co. to John Campbell, merchant of Lazy Hill for 20 lb. Proclamation Money 190 acres which WILLIAM TYNER had purchased from Joshua Stephens 10 Oct 1748 and by Will from Said Tyner to his only son & heir William Tyner who sold it to me & John Ramsey 9 Feb. 1771 & said John Ramsey sold his right to said John Campbell on North side of Chinkapin Swamp joining Richard Homes former corner. Wit. James Campbell, Jno Ramsey Aug Ct. 1774.
Bertie Co. NC Court Records
Will Book C, pg 324 10 Aug 1725 Nicholas Tiner witnessed deed.
Will Book B, pg. 26 Nov. 9, 1725 John Chesire sells to Nicholas Tyner 460 acres on SS Little Swamp for 48 Barrels of Tar. Wit: John Sutton, John Smith. Recorded Nov. Court 1725. (Note. This is the property given to son Nicholas on 7 Feb. 1739 - JWR)
Will Book b, pg. 296 Aug 1, 1726 William Simms deeds to Nicholas Tyner 300 acres on S S Meherrin River on Little Swamp for 15 Lbs. Wit: Robert Simms, Wm. Boon (Note. This is the property given to son William on 7 Feb. 1739 - JWR)
Book F. page 49 - 7 Feb 1739 - Deed of Gift NICHOLAS TYNER & WIFE ELIZABETH to WILLIAM TYNER 300 Acrs "for the value and respect ... unto my son ... excepting my Liberty & Tollaration therein & thereon during my natural life" Land on Sou. Side Maherrin River & Sou Side Little Swamp. Wit. J. Dew, jurat; Richard Barley. Feb. Ct 1739 (Note. Does this indicate William was to take care of Nicholas in his old age?)
Will Book D, pg. 5 21 Apr. 1733 John Taylor sells 100 acres in Moherring Woods adj. Kirby's Creek to John Tyner for 10 Lb. Patent dated April 1, 1723 to Thomas Mandew. Wit: John Tyner, Nicholas Tyner, Nathaniel Cooper. Recorded August Court 1733.
Bertie Co., August 1734 James Tyner, John Tyner & Nicholas Tyner, inhabitants on Kirby Creek signd a petition.
Will Book E, Pg 19 Aug 7, 1735 Thomas Mandew sells to James Tiner 620 acres on SS Kirby Creek on Branch Carony. This 620 acres was granted to Thomas Mandew on Apr. 1, 1723. Wit: Wm Bunn, H. Tudar Recorded Aug. Court 1736.
Will Book F. pg. 61, Feb. 6, 1739 John Dew & Nicholas Tyner witnessed deed of Richard Bailey to George Burten.
Page 333 , 11 Aug 1741 Deed of sale from James Tyner to Sam'l Strickland acknowledged and read.
Will Book G, pg. 372 Dec 1750 William Tyner witnessed deed from Calet Stephens of Mill Neck to William Stephens. Recorded Aug. Ct. 1751.
Will Book H, pg. 65 June 30 1753 Burweell Bell & wife Sarah to Richard Reyner (Tyner?). 20 lbs for 200 acrs on E S Chinkapin Swamp adj. William Tyner. ( If anyone has access to these original records it would be good to check to see if the above is Richard Tyner - JWR)
Page 955,4th Tues in Mar. 1771 Deed from Wm. Tyner to Frances Johnson & John Ramsey proved by the oath of Rebecca Tyner. Evidence thereto Let it be Registered.
Bertie Co. NC Marriages
Tyner, Elizabeth to James Hall 23 Sep. 1780
Tyner, Amelia to Wright Hogard 23 May 1793
Tyner, Temperance to Wm. H. Wilkins 14 Dec 1802
Tiner, Salley to Meedy White 22 Aug 1801
Tiner, Winefred to Jethro Butler 16 Aug 1791
n VA, he was classified as a Yeoman (owner of a small amount of land.)
The will of Nicholas Tyner written Dec. 12, 1752 and probated Nov. 1753 in Northampton County named wife Elizabeth, son William (extr.), grandson James (father not given), Nicholas and John the children of James Tyner dec'd., Sarah Woodward, Elizabeth Johnson, and Ann Corbett.
per http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/1159/tyner.html (Page no longer exists.)
A better transcription from Shane Tyner:
In the Name of God Amen
I Nicholas Tyner --- of the County of Northampton Being --- and Much Striction in years but being att this preasent time In perfect Sound Mind and Memory Thanks Be Given to Almighty God Tharefore and Calling to mind the Mortallity of Mans Boady Doe think itt proper to Settle my affairs in Mannor as followeth
first and principally my Soul to Almighty God that Gave itt and My Boady to Be Buried att the --- of My Executors as I shall hear after Mention : and as for What Worldly Goods itt hath pleased God to --- on me I give and --- as followeth first my --- Debts Being Truly payed ---I give and Bequeath to my Grand Son James Tyner the Son of Nicholas Tyner one hundread Acres of Land Lying on --- in the County above said and one feather Bead and furnitur and one Iron pott and one frying pan and Two cows and --- and puterdish and one --- to be Delivered to him Imediately after my Death and the Death of my Wife Elizabeth Tyner
And the Remaining parts of my Estate Both Real and personall I Leave to be Equally Devided Amongst All my Children after my --- and the Death of my Wife Elizabeth (to wit) Nicholas Tyner and John Tyner and the Children of James Tyner Dead and William Tyner and the Children of Sarah Woodard Dead and Elizzabeth Johnson and Ann Corbett : and I Constitute and Appointe My Trusty and Well Beloved Sone William Tyner to be my full and whole Exec.of this Which allow to Be My Last Will and Testament in
Testamoney Whare of I have hearunto Sett my hand and seal this 12th Day of December - 1752 - Nicholas Tyner his marke
Signed and sealed in the preasents of ----
Abstract of North Carolina wills
Tyner, William Page 385 (2)
TYNER, NICHOLAS.
Northampton County.
December 12, 1752. November Court, 1753. Grandson: JAMES TYNER (lands on Gaulberry). Other children: NICHOLAS and JOHN TYNER (the children of JAMES TYNER, decd.), WILLIAM TYNER, SARAH WOODARD, ELIZABETH JOHNSON and ANN CORBETT. Executor: WILLIAM TYNER (son). Wife: ELIZABETH. All estate divided among children above-named. Witnesses: J. DEW, WILLIAM CORBETT. Clerk of the Court: I. Edwards.
Name. Will Book. Page.
Tyner, Nicholas 1750-1758 195
Isle of Wight Co., Va., Wills and Administrations, Book A, p. 264. Will of Edward Perkins - 9 Dcc. 1686.
In the name of God, Amen
.....I Edward Perkins being weak in body but in sound and perfect memory praised be to God do constitute and ordain this my last will and testament in manner and form as followetli. lmprimis. I give and bequeath my soul to God who gave it me and to Jesus Christ my only Savior and redeemer, my body to Christian burial. As for my worldly estate l dispose of it as followeth.
.....Ittm I give and bequeath unto William Murphry Sen my plantation whereon I live together with all the land I now possess during his natural life and after his death to his sonne William Murphry Jun to him and his heyres forever.
.....Ittm 1 give and bequeath to William Murphy Sen all my stock of cattle and hoggs he paying to John Lawrence and John Jordan: two cowes apcece.
.....ltm I give and bequeath unto James Tyner the sonne of Nicholas Tyner three cowes fouer calves one heiffer which his father hath in possession to-gather with the one halfe of their increase when he shall come to age.
.....Ittm 1 give and bequeath to Nicholas Tyner the other half of the increase of the above mentioned cattle.
.....Ittm 1 give unto Margaret Murphry daughter to William Murphry one feather bed one rugge one pr of blankets one pair of curtians and vallence one paire of sheets one boulster one pillow & pillow case.
.....It~~ I give unto Margarett Murfry all my pewter one greate iron pott one small iron potl one greate table and two formes. I Note: Formes were shoe patterns.]
.....ittm 1 give unto Mikill Murphry my horse.
.....Ittm I doe ordaine and appointe William Murphry Sen to be my sole and whole executor of this my last will and testament revokeing all other wills and testaments by me formerly made, as in witness whereof 1 have here unto set hand and scale this 22nd day of August 1686. (Signed) Edward Perkins
PDF FILE PAGE NAME DISTRICT
COUNTY Col A Col B Col C
1790H-03 75 Tyner, John Halifax
Northampton 4 2 3
1790H-03 75 Tyner, Mary Halifax
Northampton 0 0 4
1790H-03 75 Tyner, Nicholas Halifax
Northampton 1 2 2
1790H-03 75 Tyner, William Halifax
Northampton 1 0 4
Col A: Number of Free white Males of 16 years and upward, including heads of families.
Col B: Number of white Males under 16 years.
Col C: Number of Free white Females including heads of families.
Children of NICHOLAS TYNER and ELIZABETH ? are:
5. i. NICHOLAS TYNER, b. Abt. 1715, Northampton County, North Carolina; d. December 12, 1752, Northhampton County, North Carolina.
6. ii. WILLIAM TYNER, b. Bet. 1719 - 1723; d. Abt. December 02, 1778, NorthHampton County, North Carolina.
iii. JAMES ALLEN TYNER, b. Abt. 1717, Northampton County, North Carolina; d. Bef. 1752.
Notes for JAMES ALLEN TYNER:
The son James Tyner who was deceased by 1752 appeared on several records involving the sons of Oliver Woodward, Sr.,
7. iv. ANN TYNER, b. Bet. 1720 - 1722, Isle of Wight County, Virginia.
v. ELIZABETH TYNER, m. ? JOHNSON.
vi. SARAH TYNER, m. ? WOODWARD.
Notes for SARAH TYNER:
..... Nicholas Tyner's daughter Sarah Tyner was the wife of one of the Woodwards in the Oliver Woodward family, but not Oliver himself. This site suggests Joseph Woodward.
http://www.woodardfamilytree.com/oliverwoodardsr.html
vii. JOHN TYNER, b. Abt. 1720.
3. SARAH TYNER (NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1668, and died Aft. 1710 in Chowan Precinct, Albemarle County, North Carolina. She met JOHN HARRIS, son of THOMAS HARRIS and ANN MARTIN. He was born 1665 in Isle of Wight, Chowan County, VIrginia, and died Aft. December 16, 1711 in Chowan Pct., Albemarle County, North Carolina.
Notes for SARAH TYNER:
ThatBeBob at AOL.COM 9/7/99
.....Tying Richard back to John Harris and Sarah Tyner is one of my main Tyner projects. Lacking anything but circumstantial evidence, I "feel" certain that Richard Tyner of Elbert was the same man as Richard of Johnston and the son of John Harris Tyner, who was the natural son of Sarah Tyner and John Harris. People have gone through all kinds of mental calisthenics to legitimize that relationship and, to me, none of them fly. When I was first beginning my Tyner research, I came upon the will of John Harris, and after reading it I read it again, and thought "Wow, this woman was his mistress." Nothing I've seen since has made me change my opinion.
Theory # 1. SARAH TYNER WAS JOHN HARRIS'S DAUGHTER:
.....I don't see how anyone who read John's will ever drew this conclusion. If this is the case, why didn't he say so? John Harris, in naming Sarah executor, also very clearly designates her "trusty friend." If that's not enough, I know that John Harris Tyner was of age by 1725. John Harris was born ca 1665. If he had a daughter born ca 1785, it's possible that she had a child born by 1705, but a bare 20 years between generations is somewhat of a tight fit.
Theory #2 SARAH TYNER WAS A DAUGHTER-IN-LAW OF NICHOLAS TYNER
.....This is the theory of Lewis A. Wood, 215 Le Grand Blvd., Greenville, S.C. 29607, and I will quote it:
....."A lot of "TYNER" researchers, including Max TYNER, one of the original TYNER historians, have stated that NICHOLAS TYNER (Isle of Wight, VA) was the father of SARAH TYNER, mistress of JOHN HARRIS and that JOHN HARRIS was the father of JOHN & WILLIAM TYNER, sons of SARAH TYNER, his mistress. I (LAW) have never seen any proof that SARAH TYNER, mistress of JOHN HARRIS, was the daughter of NICHOLAS TYNER I (Isle of Wight) NICHOLAS TYNER I did have a daughter, SARAH TYNER, that he left 1 Cow & 1 Calf to if she would have it.
.....There is another possibility that no one seems to have taken into account. Consider this - NICHOLAS TYNER (Isle of Wight) had a son who was already dead when he made his Will in 1708. This dead son's wife, SARAH, had 3 small children by him, JOHN. WILLIAM, & SARAH TYNER. But, at the time of his Will in 1708, this daughter-in-law, SARAH, wife of his dead son, was living with JOHN HARRIS as his "Mistress" JOHN HARRIS had a wife, Mildren, living with him at the same time. So, NICHOLAS TYNER I, so disapproved of her behavior, that he left her out of his Will completely. This would account for SARAH'S children using the surname, "TYNER". If JOHN HARRIS had actually been their father, I feel sure he would have wonted them to use his surname "HARRIS". SARAH TYNER'S, (mistress of JOHN HARRIS), son JOHN TYNER, later, used the name JOHN HARRIS TYNER and many more of her descendants also used "HARRIS" in their name, but, not as their surname - that was always "TYNER"."
.....My only real comment about this, is that, it makes even less sense for John Harris to leave the bulk of his estate to the children of his mistress by another man, and why is one of them named Harris?
Theory #3 SARAH TYNER WAS THE MISTRESS OF JOHN HARRIS AND BORE HIM THREE CHILDREN:
This is still the winner, as far as I'm concerned.
1. I know of no evidence of any Sarah Tyner in that time and vicinity other than the daughter of Nicholas (d. 1709.)
2. She named one of her sons John Harris Tyner and the name Harris was given to children for generations hence.
3. In his will, Nicholas Tyner rather clearly stated his displeasure with Sarah. "I give unto my daughter Sarah one cow & a calf, if shee will have it and no more."
.....This has been a method of expressing parental displeasure from the grave since time immemorial and we still see it in movies and TV every day (i. e. "Rain Man".) It would be unusual for her to be cut out of her share of the household goods if he were not displeased with her and the phrase "all ye rest of my children Excepting my daughter Sarah, and my will is that Shee shall have no more than is already given her." is to me a sure sign that he didn't like a marriage she had entered or something she was doing and being someone's mistress seems like a logical reason.
4. Edward Padgett and Mary Tyner witnessed the will of John Harris. Now these people are very unlikely to be anyone else but Nicholas's daughter Mary and Nicholas's son-in-law Edward Padgett who married Margaret Tyner, providing another link back to Nicholas. Again, from Nicholas's will
"I give unto Margaret two cows & calves & ye plantation where she now lives in Rockahock Neck, being ye remainder of ye land before given to her & her heirs." making her and her husband Edward neighbors to John Harris.
.....Let me know what you think.
Bob [Bob Erwin]
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004
9/14/2004
Notes for JOHN HARRIS:
#130, p. 64: John Harris of ye precinct of Chowan for the Love and Effection I bare my sister Jane Jones and her husband Richard Jones Aug. 1705 my plantation known as ye Holes on the west side of the Matocomack Creek for and during their natural lives and they are to settle there next fall or the said Plantation to revert and return to me the said Harris I bind myself in the penall sum of 40 L sterling.
#170, p. 81 John Harris of Chowan Precinct to William Ffallow of the same place Dec. 6 1707 for a valuable consideration plantation called Cypress Neck joining Homestead Branch all housing and fencing etc. bind myself in the penall sum of 20 L sterling.
#131, p. 65 Thomas Marks and Rebecca my wife to John Harris 14 Sept. 1704 for a valuable consideration all our right and title to the within mentioned sale. We bind ourselves in the sum of 40 L sterling.
John Harris appears as a witness in #169; in 196 (Thomas Marks deed); in 723 Deed Book B1; 760; 1166; 1517 Deed C1; 1205; 1443 Deed Book C
9 Oct 1693- Gave evidence against Martin DENNETT, appearing before court comprised by Col. Arthur SMITH, Henry BAKER, Capt. Henry APPLEWHAITE, Thomas GILES, Lt. Col. Samuel BRIDGER, & Capt. John GOODRICH.
23 Nov 1693- Paid by the court for said appearance
1702- Witness w/ bro-n-law William HARRIS to the will of Robert STURDY, Isle of Wight Co., VA
Could this line be connected?
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 08:48:11 EST
Children of SARAH TYNER and JOHN HARRIS are:
4. MARGARET TYNER (NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1685. She married EDWARD PADGETT. He was born Abt. 1668 in Essex County, Virginia.
Notes for MARGARET TYNER:
Early Records of North Carolina - Vol. 5: Wills 1723-1736 - Dr. Stephen E. Bradley, Jr.
p. 67 - 362. EDWARD PAGET 28 Feb 1727/8 876/137 18 Apr 1728 (before Richard Everhard) of Chowan Precinct. "very Sick and weak in Body"
Edward Padgett also witnessed a deed on 7 Oct. 1716 where Nicholas Tiner of Isle of Wright County, Virginia was selling 300 acres to David Ambross of Chowan Prect. This being 300 acres of the 640 acres given to me by my father Nicholas Tiner.
Marriage Notes for MARGARET TYNER and EDWARD PARKETT: On March 31, 1720 Edward and Margaret Tyner Patchett of Chowan Prect. sold to David Ambrose of Albemarle County 300 acres at the head of Myere Branch.
Children of MARGARET TYNER and EDWARD PADGETT are:
5. NICHOLAS TYNER (NICHOLAS , NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1715 in Northampton County, North Carolina, and died December 12, 1752 in Northhampton County, North Carolina. He married ELIZABETH DEW, daughter of JOHN DEW and ELIZABETH BRYANT. She was born Abt. 1720 in Edgecomebe County, North Carolina.
Notes for NICHOLAS TYNER:
Elizabeth Dew was born to John Dew III and Elizabeth Bryant. around 1720/1725 in Edgecombe co., NC or possibly Bertie Co. before Edgecombe was formed from Bertie. John Dew III moved from Bertie Co. to Edgecome Co. and finally settled in Northampton Co., where he died. His will was probated in Northampton in 1760. Elizabeth Dew was a widow at the time of her father's death.
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/vafdking/dew.htm says Elizabeth Dew married William Tyner, Senior.
http://ivanlewis.com/genealogy/sones.html says he was "Nicholas Oliver Tyner III."
WilliamKerr at bellsouth.net gives this family another daughter, Sarah, and traces a line from her, but I haven't heard of her before. She marries a John Harris Tyner, whom I haven't heard of before, either. See http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=gilead&id=I045141
Is this him?
Children of NICHOLAS TYNER and ELIZABETH DEW are:
6. WILLIAM TYNER (NICHOLAS , NICHOLAS) was born Bet. 1719 - 1723, and died Abt. December 02, 1778 in NorthHampton County, North Carolina. He married ELIZABETH ?, daughter of JOHN DEW. She was born in Northampton County, North Carolina, and died Aft. 1781.
Notes for WILLIAM TYNER:
Noampton County March Court 1779.
Goldroot's Paternal tree at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/1159/ptree/fam00084.htm claims William's daughter Elizabeth married John Davis (1769--22 JUL 1832 Northampton Co. NC), and gives descendants.
From: "Jerry Cranford"
Children of WILLIAM TYNER and ELIZABETH ? are:
WILL
Northampton County March Court 1782. This will of Arthur Tyner was proven by the oath of James Davis one of the witnesses and Nicholas Tyner qualified executor to the same. Ordered to be certified and recorded.
Northampton County March Court 1823. This Will was proved in open Court in due form by the Oath of James m. Lowerly, one of the subscribing witnesses thereto, and ordered to be certified and reissued
7. ANN TYNER (NICHOLAS , NICHOLAS) was born Bet. 1720 - 1722 in Isle of Wight County, Virginia. She married WILLIAM CORBETT. He was born Abt. 1720 in Isle of Wight County, Virginia.
Notes for WILLIAM CORBETT:
See also: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walnutridge/farm_view_000008.htm
1771-DB6, P 1076 (123) Joseph Woodward of N/H, NC to Henry Barnes of Hertford Co., NC, 160 AC , which was part of patent to Carolus Anderson, 4/11/1745, sold to Nicholas Tyner, 4/31/1745. on a small br on Kerby's cr. Wit William Mabry, William Corbitt Dec Ct., 1771
Census 1790: Edgecombe Co, NC: William CORBITT ( 4 free white males 16 & over) (2 free white females 16 & over)
Child of ANN TYNER and WILLIAM CORBETT is:
8. JOHN HARRIS TYNER (SARAH , NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1693 in Little River, Laurent County, South Carolina, and died Abt. 1767 in Johnson County, North Carolina.
Notes for JOHN HARRIS TYNER:
John Harris Tyner probably died in Johnson County, North Carolina.
"Jul 1767 Ordered that HARRIS TYNER SR be recommended as a poor aged person incapable of performing public duties & paying taxes.
Children of JOHN HARRIS TYNER are:
1811-1812 Tax List For St. Tammany Parish, Louisiana lists a Caleb Tyner; him?
9. WILLIAM TYNER (SARAH , NICHOLAS) was born Bet. 1698 - 1704, and died Abt. 1760 in Bertie County, North Carolina. He married REBECCA ?.
Notes for WILLIAM TYNER:
ABSTRACTS OF OLD NINETY-SIX ABBEVILLE DISTRICT WILLS & BONDS
Pp.358 Wilson, George Box 100, Pack 2472
Child of WILLIAM TYNER and REBECCA ? is:
10. SARAH TYNER (SARAH , NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1705 in Lancaster County, South Carolina. She married JOHN ROBERSON Abt. 1713.
Child of SARAH TYNER and JOHN ROBERSON is:
11. WILLIAM PADGETT (MARGARET TYNER, NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1720 in Chowan County, North Carolina, and died April 20, 1768 in St. Bartholomew, Colleton County, South Carolina. He married SARAH BLITCHENDEN Abt. 1739 in Bladen County, North Carolina, daughter of THOMAS BLICHENDEN and MARY NORCOM. She was born January 14, 1715/16 in Perquimans Precinct, North Carolina, and died 1790 in Winton County, South Carolina.
Notes for WILLIAM PADGETT:
William Padget, Sr. was born in Chowan County, North Carolina on Rocky Hock Creek at their plantation. This location may still be found on present day North Carolina maps, north of Edenton. Before 1740, William married Sarah Blitchenden whose brothers came with them to South Carolina. The Blitchenden family was from Perquimans County, NC, where they also owned a plantation. William and Sarah came to Colleton County, SC, before 1768 with their seven sons: William, Samuel, Elijah, Josiah, Job, Joel, and Jacob. William Padget's will is dated 1768 and lists only three sons: Elijah as administrator and William and Samuel who received nothing from their father's estate. William, Jr., Joel, and Jacob stayed in this area while the others departed. Samuel died in Winton County, SC while the other three lived in Edgefield County before Elijah departed for Georgia for the new land of the Georgia land lottery.
Children of WILLIAM PADGETT and SARAH BLITCHENDEN are:
12. BENJAMIN TYNER (NICHOLAS , NICHOLAS , NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1743 in Wayne County, North Carolina, USA, and died Aft. 1833 in Robeson County, North Carolina, USA.
Notes for BENJAMIN TYNER:
tynerlist at scott.net sent:
Benjamin Tyner, Robison Co, NC #16062
Given the age span between the youngest and oldest child, Benjamin probably was married more than once.
Children of BENJAMIN TYNER are:
13. NICHOLAS TYNER (NICHOLAS , NICHOLAS , NICHOLAS) was born August 10, 1752 in NorthHampton, North Carolina. He married ?.
Notes for NICHOLAS TYNER:
Nicholas Tyner in Northampton Co, N.C. #S7773
Is this him? http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/nc/hertford/military/taylor01.txt :
Source: Dr. Bruce PRUITT, North Carolina State Archives
Names of pensioners for revolutionary or military services, including ages and names of heads of families with whom pensioners resided June 1, 1840.
Children of NICHOLAS TYNER and ? are:
14. ELIZABETH TYNER (WILLIAM , NICHOLAS , NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1760 in Northampton County, North Carolina, and died Aft. 1832. She married JOHN DAVIS. He was born Abt. 1759 in Northampton County, North Carolina, and died Abt. 1832 in Northampton County, North Carolina.
Notes for ELIZABETH TYNER:
The 1850 Census shows Elizabeth Davis (Maiden name Sikes) age 90 who was married to John Davis Sr. living in household 698 with daughters Mary age 57 and Sarah age 48 who appear to not have married, also daughter Lucy Taylor age 50 who was married to Caleb Taylor who must have already died, Lucy's daughter Annie Taylor age 10, son William age 52 who appears not to have been married
Children of ELIZABETH TYNER and JOHN DAVIS are:
15. NICHOLAS TYNER (WILLIAM , NICHOLAS , NICHOLAS) He married ?. She died September 29, 1824.
http://www.lib.ecu.edu/ncc/historyfiction/document/wic/297_text.html
Source: http://digital.lib.ecu.edu/historyfiction/
Mrs. Dr. Freeman is the sister of Thomas D. Boone, the Clerk of the Superior Court of Hertford. Dr. Freeman and wife have only one child living. He is George King Freeman, the efficient railroad agent at Conway, N. C. Mrs. Dr. Freeman is regarded as one of the best read and most scholarly women
Dr. Freeman's brother, James P. Freeman, lives at Union and has for a number of years been one of the county's principal officers. For years after the war he and his brother-in-law George W. Beverly, conducted successfully a mercantile business at Union under the firm name of Beverly & Freeman.
NOTE.-Nicholas Tyner on April 1, 1707, conveyed to William Williams 300 acres of land on which Sarah Sowells lived.
Children of NICHOLAS TYNER and ? are:
16. JOHN CORBITT (ANN TYNER, NICHOLAS , NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1745 in Edgecombe County, North Carolina, and died Abt. 1807 in Edgecombe County, North Carolina. He married WINNIFRED GAY. She was born Abt. 1745.
Children of JOHN CORBITT and WINNIFRED GAY are:
17. JOHN TYNER (JOHN HARRIS , SARAH , NICHOLAS) was born Bet. 1735 - 1738, and died November 15, 1780 in Smithville, Johnston County, North Carolina. He married ABBY ?.
Notes for JOHN TYNER:
Tyner, Faulkner, Taylor, and Other Connections - Mayme Tyner - 1981
DB K-1 p. 64 - John Tyner of Dobbs Co., N.C., to Thomas Hoskins (Sr), planter of Chowan County - consideration: 60 pounds - 20 acres on East side of main “Cuntry” road to Edenton, between Tott(e)ring Bridge and the Bridge Swamp, adj. John Halsey, Esqr., & Edward Halsey - the sd. 20 acres being a part of a tract given the aforesaid John Tynor by Deed of Gift, 1/12/1759 for 245 acres. Signed by mark. Witnesses: Thom. Hoskins, Jr., John Hansford,
DB K-1 p. 66 - Recorded 1/21/1759. Bond - Whereas above bounded John Tyner sold to Thos. Hoskins 20 acres being a part of the land formerly belonging to John Harris Tynor (father of above bounded John Tynor) & by him granted to sd. John H. Tynor by Deed of Gift, 1/12/1759. Signed by mark. Witnesses: Thomas Hoskins, Jr., John Hansford, John Hoskins.
DB M-1 p 88 - Recorded 10/4/1764. John Tiner of Johnston Co., N.C., to Shadrack Bunch - consideration. 50 pounds - 220 acres on Rockahock Creek, to main road near Tittering Bridge, adj. Hoskins, Halsey’s Swamp, which formerly belonged to my father, Jno. Harris Tiner. Signed by mark: witnesses Henry, Thos., & Thos Bonner.
Johnston County North Carolina Court Minutes 1759 thro 1766 - Weynette Parks Haun - 1974
84-45 Ordered that Richd. Tyners Mark be recorded which is a Crop & a slit in the right Ear & a Swalow fork on the left & a half moon under it. (note: This seems to show to me that Richard Tyner was the son of Harris Tyner and grandson of John Harris. See John Harris’s Will)
DB D-1, p 181 1764 John Tiner of Johnston Co. to Jesse Tiner. Consideration 15 pounds - 200 acres, north side of Neuse River.
DB D-1, p 223 1764 John Tiner of Johnston Co. to Jesse Tiner.
DB E-1, p.62 1766. Samuel (his mark) Strickland to John Tyner - Consid. 2 pounds, 5 shillings - acerage not given - being part of a grant to Samuel Strickland, 10/30/1765, land on north side of Neuse River. Jesse Tiner a witness.
DB I #1 p 264 - 5/31/1779, John Tyner of Johnston Co., planter to Wm. Davis consid.: 10 pounds - (acerage not given) a tract granted to Samuel Strickling 10/20/1765, north side of Neuse River, between John Whitley & Joseph Sims, on south side Bawdy (Baudy) Swamp, adj. Thos. Chaimbers. Signed by mark. Witnesses: John Whitley, Davis his X mark Strickling Pr. May 1779.
Miscellaneous Records That Might Be Useful To Other Researchers - p 24
Will of John Tyner recorded in Smithfield, NC, Johnston Co. Book 1,
Jesse Tyner's will is recorded in Johnston County, N.C. Book 1, page 288, 1818. Wife Sallie, sons James, Lewis, Willis, John, William, and daughters Eliza, and Polly; heirs of daughter Sally,
Children of JOHN TYNER and ABBY ? are:
18. RICHARD TYNER (JOHN HARRIS , SARAH , NICHOLAS) was born Bet. 1735 - 1740 in South Carolina, USA, and died November 10, 1824 in Elbert County, Georgia, USA. He married (1) ELIZA JANE ? Abt. 1760. He married (2) AGNES DAUGHERTY Abt. 1779 in Probably Wilkes County, Georgia. She was born Abt. 1750, and died Abt. 1800 in Georgia, USA.
Notes for RICHARD TYNER:
Many trees on the Internet say Richard's wife was Tamar Hilliard.
Richard Tyner was a veteran of Revolutionary War/Battle of Kettle Creek.
Shannon Weigel says Agnes's parents were Charles Daugherty and Mary Downing; see the Shannon Jolley tree at http://awt.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2868162&id=I568060833&ti=5538
History of Elbert Co, Georgia, below was provided by:
"Richard was born about 1735, probably in Chowan County, NC. He died 24 Sep, 1824 in Elbert County, GA. ........The Tyners were closely associated with the Cherokees, and Richard himself may have been part Indian. " per Tom Crump
"Richard Tyner was a Revolutionary War Patriot. He fought in the Battle of Kettle Creek in Feb. 1779, Wilkes County, GA, where the Tories were routed. The Tories had tried to instigate an Indian uprising against the Georgians so they could not fight in the Revolution.
Coldwater Community in Elbert County - 1770=92s - 1970 - Clara Adams Stowers
Source: "Historical Collections of Georgia" by the Rev. George White, M.A.
This same story is related in "Chronicles of Wilkes County, Georgia, from Washington's Newspapers 1889-1898. Articles of Eliza A. Bowen, Rev. F.T. Simpson, S.A. Wooten, and others." Transcribed and Edited by Mary Bondurant Warren. 1978. Heritage Papers, Danielsville, GA.
Another version appearing in SC newspapers:
A book called Livingston County Kentucky, Vol 1, on page 13 states: "Roy A. married Flora, daughter of nepoleon and Caroline (Bryan) Tyner, descendent of Richard Tyner of Falsenburg, Germany. Soldier in the Revolutioinary War in Georgia, while he was fighting at the Battle of Kettle Creek, Indians raided his home killing his wife and baby. Noah, a small boy hidden in a hollow tree, was spared. The tree long after was called Noah's Ark. Flora was distantly related to the donors of land for Tyner's Chapel. There was also a Barnett Chapel and School."
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mysouthernfamily/myff/d0083/g0000092.html
Georgia : Court of Ordinary Sovernity
Estate Returns for Elbert Co., Ga. 1824, pg 33: Richard Tyner: shows receipts of Robt. Crump, Nancy Tyner, Harris Tyner, Thompson McGuire and Moses Hunt in right of his wife Tamar in part of their legacies pg 153 Returns of 1825 show receipts of Wm Boatright in right of his wife, Eliz, of John Bird in right of his wife, Martha B., and Elijah Bird, gdn (guardian) of Sarah, Martha, Nancy, and Mary Bird, orphans of Billings B. Bird and Charity Bird. Also receipts of David Dolbs, atty, for Richard Tyner for fees for acting as atty, and expenses in establishing the claim and collecting money which was appropriated to said Tyner for a Revolutionary claim for property lost in the war between the U. S. and Great Brittian. William Bailey and Isham Teasley, Excrs.
Per ROCKY MOUNTAIN NEWS.COM at http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_3841949,00.html
Children of RICHARD TYNER and ELIZA ? are:
Children of RICHARD TYNER and AGNES DAUGHERTY are:
19. HARRIS TYNER (JOHN HARRIS , SARAH , NICHOLAS) was born August 04, 1740 in Lancaster, South Carolina, and died Abt. 1778. He married NANCY ADAIR Abt. 1768, daughter of JAMES ADAIR and ESTHER MCBRIDE. She was born January 28, 1745/46 in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina, and died July 28, 1835 in Harrisburg, Fayette County, Indiana, USA.
Notes for HARRIS TYNER:
South Carolina
We and Each of us for our Selves do unanamasly agree and into Strick Compack Enter as one man with hart and hand to Defend this Contrey as far as in us lays, and that the Seam may be Effected in the most Salatory way at the lest Cost to this provense or america in General We Do hearby Ingeage to furnish our Selves with Good arams and acouterments and allso to hold our Selves in Rediness as a trup of Horse to martch at twenty four Hours notis under the Command of our proper officers Cometneed by the Honorable the Counsel of Safety and
And we also furder agree that Soon as thirty men or more well Equiped have Entered and Subcribed there names hear unto then we hold it most proper to Chouse our officers by a majoraty of the vots of the volunteers So Entered to which be Ingeag to preform truly
David Hunter Garrard Thomas Jas Liddell
Willm Black Thommas Lesey
Notes for NANCY ADAIR:
Children of HARRIS TYNER and NANCY ADAIR are:
20. WILLIAM TYNER (JOHN HARRIS , SARAH , NICHOLAS)
Notes for WILLIAM TYNER:
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 12:10:57 EST
Child of WILLIAM TYNER is:
21. WILLIAM TYNER (WILLIAM , SARAH , NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1735, and died Abt. 1778. He married ELIZABETH ?.
Notes for WILLIAM TYNER:
We and Each of us for our Selves do unanamasly agree and into Strick Compack Enter as one man with hart and hand to Defend this Contrey as far as in us lays, and that the Seam may be Effected in the most Salatory way at the lest Cost to this provense or america in General We Do hearby Ingeage to furnish our Selves with Good arams and acouterments and allso to hold our Selves in Rediness as a trup of Horse to martch at twenty four Hours notis under the Command of our proper officers Cometneed by the Honorable the Counsel of Safety and
And we also furder agree that Soon as thirty men or more well Equiped have Entered and Subcribed there names hear unto then we hold it most proper to Chouse our officers by a majoraty of the vots of the volunteers So Entered to which be Ingeag to preform truly
David Hunter Garrard Thomas Jas Liddell
Willm Black Thommas Lesey
Child of WILLIAM TYNER and ELIZABETH ? is:
22. SAMUEL PADGETT (WILLIAM , MARGARET TYNER, NICHOLAS) was born 1741. He married SARAH ?. She was born Abt. 1741 in Winton County, South Carolina.
Children of SAMUEL PADGETT and SARAH ? are:
23. ELIJAH PADGETT (WILLIAM , MARGARET TYNER, NICHOLAS) was born 1742 in North Carolina, and died Abt. 1807 in Louisville, Jefferson County, Georgia. He married SUSAN WARREN. She was born 1742 in Jefferson County, Georgia.
Children of ELIJAH PADGETT and SUSAN WARREN are:
24. JOSIAH PADGETT (WILLIAM , MARGARET TYNER, NICHOLAS) was born 1750 in North Carolina, and died Abt. December 1811 in Edgefield County, South Carolina. He married (1) MILLY WARREN. She was born Abt. 1760 in Edgefield County, South Carolina. He married (2) MILLY EIDSON. She was born 1755 in Edgefield County, South Carolina.
Notes for JOSIAH PADGETT:
Children of JOSIAH PADGETT and MILLY WARREN are:
25. JOB PADGETT (WILLIAM , MARGARET TYNER, NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1750 in North Carolina, and died January 1837 in Edgefield County, South Carolina. He married MARY C. BODIE. She was born Abt. 1765 in North Carolina, and died Abt. 1822.
Notes for JOB PADGETT:
Children of JOB PADGETT and MARY BODIE are:
26. JOEL PADGETT (WILLIAM , MARGARET TYNER, NICHOLAS) was born 1751 in North Carolina, and died Abt. 1830 in Colleton County, South Carolina. He married SAVORY ?.
Children of JOEL PADGETT and SAVORY ? are:
27. ARTHUR PEARCE TYNER (BENJAMIN , NICHOLAS , NICHOLAS , NICHOLAS) was born 1760 in Johnson County, North Carolina, USA, and died February 27, 1845. He married ELIZABETH RICHARDSON Abt. 1789. She died February 27, 1845.
Notes for ARTHUR PEARCE TYNER:
Ancestry.com in the Database: North Carolina Revolutionary War Soldiers. It states that in PIERCE'S REGISTER, vol. x, p. 300
Pierce Tyner, between ages 50-60 and one female, between 70-80 appear on p. 114, Marion Co., MS Federal Census. 1830
Children of ARTHUR TYNER and ELIZABETH RICHARDSON are:
28. FRANCES TYNER (BENJAMIN , NICHOLAS , NICHOLAS , NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1768 in South Carolina, and died July 15, 1853 in DeWitt County, Texas. She married GABRIEL BLACKBURN Bef. 1790 in Georgetown District, South Carolina. He was born Abt. 1769 in Sampson County, North Carolina, and died 1848 in Sabine County, Texas.
Notes for GABRIEL BLACKBURN:
Children of FRANCES TYNER and GABRIEL BLACKBURN are:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~txsanpat/landmarks/Meansville.html
29. BENJAMIN J. TYNER (BENJAMIN , NICHOLAS , NICHOLAS , NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1790 in Johnson County, North Carolina, USA, and died Abt. 1883 in Robeson County, North Carolina, USA.
Notes for BENJAMIN J. TYNER:
Benjamin Tyner found in:
1860 - North Division, Robeson, North Carolina
Children of BENJAMIN J. TYNER are:
30. ELIZABETH DEW TYNER (NICHOLAS , NICHOLAS , NICHOLAS , NICHOLAS) was born May 08, 1798 in Northhampton County, North Carolina, USA, and died April 01, 1873 in Fayette County, Tennessee, USA. She married (1) JAMES H. SOWERBY August 08, 1817 in Northhampton County, North Carolina. She married (2) REDDICK CROSS March 15, 1827, son of CYPRIAN CROSS and CHRISTIAN REDDICK. He was born Abt. 1774 in Nansemond County, Virginia, USA, and died Abt. 1847 in Fayette County, Tennessee, USA.
Notes for ELIZABETH DEW TYNER:
http://www.tngenweb.org/madison/riverside/mrc6-11.htm
"According to her obituary that appeared in the NASHVILLE CHRISTIAN ADVOCATE, a Methodist publication, April 19, 1873, written by John W. Shelton, her son-in-law, Elizabeth Cross was born in Northampton County, North Carolina, May 8, 1796, a daughter of Nicholas Tyner, a "soldier of the Revolution." She died in Fayette Co., April 1, 1873. (In the WHIG-TRIBUNE, Jackson, April 12, 1873, "At her late residence in Fayette county, Tenn., on the 4th inst., Mrs. E. D. Cross, in the seventy-fifth year of her age." Note April 4 not 1st.)
"Elizabeth D. Tyner was married to James H. "Sowersberry" August 8, 1817 (bond) in Northampton County. In the 1820 U.S. Census of that county, James H. "Somerley" appears with a male, aged 16-26; a female, aged 16-26 and a female, aged to ten years old. Evidently, Sowersby died and as a widow, Elizabeth "Sowerly" was married to Reddick Cross of Hertford Co., N.C. March 15, 1827 (bond). The RALEIGH REGISTER, April 6, 1827 announced the marriage of Maj. Reddick Cross of Hertford Co to Miss Elizabeth "Sowerby" of Northampton Co. March 15, 1827.
"In the land settlement, Elizabeth D. Cross received the homestead and land; of her children, receiving portions of the real estate of the late Major Cross were (their order of birth suggested by their ages listed in the 1850 U.S. Census, October 23, Fayette Co., Civil District 9, household of Elizabeth Cross): Martha, born about 1829; Rebecca E., born July 1834; Thomas C., born about 1831; Susan, born about 1836; Cornelia A., born April 1839; William, born about 1840.
"Major Cross' will-testament was presented for probate May 2, 1847, soon after his demise (Fayette Co. Court Minute Book C, page 377); as his wife, Elizabeth D. Cross and a son, David C. Cross, whom he had designated as co-executors, failed to act, Joel Jones was appointed estate administrator,
"Oct. 2, 1848. (IBID. Book D, page 12) After Jones' death, Madison Parker was appointed to act in this capacity, January 4, 1854. (IBID., Book E, page 248)
"There appears to have been some contention among his heirs over the disposition of Major Cross' estate and the case, John W. Shelton v Susan V. Cross and others was heard in Fayette County Chancery Court, the results of which were recorded in Chancery Minute Book K, page 321, but that record was destroyed when the courthouse burned in 1925.
"In her will-testament, Oct. 16, 1869, Elizabeth D. Cross bequeathed $15 to her daughter, Sarah R. Fain (evidently the surviving child of her first marriage); daughters Frances C. Parker, Martha A. Shelton, Rebecca E. Bartlett, each were left $25; daughter, Susan Cross, a bedstead and bedding; son, Thomas C. Cross, a loungestead; daughter Cornelia A. Cross, rest of her personalty except William Cross' bed. Her son, William Cross, was to receive "the homestead on which I now reside, the same willed to us by my late husband Maj. Reddick Cross." If he died without children, the homeplace was to be inherited by Cornelia A. Cross. Son William, executor. Witnesses G. M. Bartlett and N. Blackwell (Fayette Co. Will Book B, pages 327-328) As the witnesses to her will lived in Shelby Co., Tenn. the court ruled Oct. 9, 1873 that the probate would be postponed on this will until it could be proven appropriately. (Fayette Co. Court Minute Book M, page 485) Finally, on April 7, 1875, Dr. Nicholas Blackwell of Shelby Co., Tenn., one of the witnesses, deposed that he saw Elizabeth D. Cross execute the document as her will; that he was familiar with G. M. Bartlett, the other witness, etc. The will was admitted to probate on this date. (IBID. Book N, page 542)"
GENEALOGICAL ABSTRACTS FROM REPORTED DEATHS,
Children of ELIZABETH TYNER and JAMES SOWERBY are:
Children of ELIZABETH TYNER and REDDICK CROSS are:
31. JOHN DAVIS (ELIZABETH TYNER, WILLIAM , NICHOLAS , NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1779 in Northampton County, North Carolina, and died March 22, 1852 in Northampton County, North Carolina. He married (2) NANCY SIKES January 06, 1823. She was born Abt. 1790.
Children of JOHN DAVIS are:
Children of JOHN DAVIS and NANCY SIKES are:
32. JOSHUA DAVIS (ELIZABETH TYNER, WILLIAM , NICHOLAS , NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1785 in Northampton County, North Carolina. He married ELIZABETH ?. She was born Abt. 1798.
Children of JOSHUA DAVIS and ELIZABETH ? are:
33. RHODA DAVIS (ELIZABETH TYNER, WILLIAM , NICHOLAS , NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1798 in Northampton County, North Carolina. She married BARNABAS POPE September 06, 1817 in Northampton County, North Carolina. He was born Abt. 1775.
Notes for BARNABAS POPE:
Children of RHODA DAVIS and BARNABAS POPE are:
34. ARTHUR DAVIS (ELIZABETH TYNER, WILLIAM , NICHOLAS , NICHOLAS) was born August 03, 1799 in Northampton County, North Carolina, and died Abt. 1879 in Northampton County, North Carolina. He married (1) FEREBY POWELL March 21, 1826 in Northampton County, North Carolina, daughter of ELIAS POWELL and HELEN JOHNSON. She was born January 01, 1798 in Northampton County, North Carolina. He married (2) LOUISA ODOM September 04, 1878 in Northampton County, North Carolina. She was born October 18, 1836 in Northampton County, North Carolina, and died January 19, 1886 in Northampton County, North Carolina.
Children of ARTHUR DAVIS and FEREBY POWELL are:
35. LUCY DAVIS (ELIZABETH TYNER, WILLIAM , NICHOLAS , NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1800 in Northampton County, North Carolina. She married CALEB TAYLOR January 02, 1833 in Northampton County, North Carolina.
Child of LUCY DAVIS and CALEB TAYLOR is:
36. LUCRETIA TYNER (NICHOLAS , WILLIAM , NICHOLAS , NICHOLAS) She married ETHELDRED JARRELL PEEBLES. He was born June 1798, and died June 1869.
Notes for LUCRETIA TYNER:
Children of LUCRETIA TYNER and ETHELDRED PEEBLES are:
37. WILLIAM CORBITT (JOHN , ANN TYNER, NICHOLAS , NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1754 in North Carolina, and died Abt. 1810 in Davidson County, Tennessee.
Notes for WILLIAM CORBITT:
Children of WILLIAM CORBITT are:
38. MEREDITH CORBITT (JOHN , ANN TYNER, NICHOLAS , NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1765 in North Carolina, and died Abt. 1830. He married (1) BARBARY BARTHOLOMEW. She was born Abt. 1780. He married (2) ELIZABETH SMITH. She was born Abt. 1770 in Pitt County, North Carolina, and died in Benton County, Tennessee, USA.
Notes for MEREDITH CORBITT:
Sources include (but not limited to):
Children of MEREDITH CORBITT and BARBARY BARTHOLOMEW are:
Children of MEREDITH CORBITT and ELIZABETH SMITH are:
http://www.tngenweb.org/benton/court/sep47crtmn.htm
39. JESSE TYNER (JOHN , JOHN HARRIS , SARAH , NICHOLAS) was born Bet. 1755 - 1762 in Cape Hatteras, Currituck County, North Carolina, and died May 26, 1818 in Johnston County, North Carolina, USA. He married (1) SALLIE ? September 27 in Itawamba County, North Carolina, USA. He married (2) SARAH BROOKS November 26, 1812 in Johnston County, North Carolina, USA, daughter of STEPHEN BROOKS and MARY FARROW. She was born Abt. 1766 in Cape Hatteras, Currituck County, North Carolina, and died Abt. 1837 in Madison County, Tennessee, USA.
Notes for JESSE TYNER:
Per Jim Arnold's WorldConnect tree at rootsweb.com
Who Jesse married and when is a mystery. Some trees give him two Sallies and a Sarah, which is flat out incredible. Sarah Brooks couldn't possibly be the mother of Jesse and John--she'd be well past 50 when they were born.
Notes for SARAH BROOKS:
Johnston county marriage records reveal widow Sarah Midyett, marrying Jesse Tiner on November 26, 1812 and the 1813 Johnston county court minutes orders that Josiah Meddyatt, "an orphan child of Sarah Tiner, be bound and apprenticed to Jacob Brooks until he arrives to the age of 21, he now being about 11 years old, to be taught the business of carpentering".
Sally (Brooks) Midyett Tiner remained in Johnston county at least until the taking of the 1820 census where she is listed as Sally Tyner over the age of 45 with 2 male slaves and 1 foreigner (not naturalized) in her household. The next record of evidence is recorded in Haywood Co., Tennessee where she made her will on January 12, 1826 as "Sally Tyner of Madison County, Tennessee" leaving negro, Tamer, to her daughter Ann Wellings and her Bible to son Micajah. The remainder, after the debts were paid, went to her son Josiah Midyett.
Children of JESSE TYNER and SALLIE ? are:
Notes for WILLIS TYNER:
Children of JESSE TYNER and SARAH BROOKS are:
40. MARY TYNER (RICHARD , JOHN HARRIS , SARAH , NICHOLAS) was born Bet. 1760 - 1765 in Johnson County, North Carolina, USA. She married (1) JOHN MONIAC Bef. 1787 in Wilkes County, Georgia, USA, son of WILLIAM MONIAC and POLLY CORBERT. He was born Abt. 1760, and died Bef. April 19, 1796. She married (2) REV. JAMES RILEY Aft. 1795 in Elbert County, Georgia.
Notes for MARY TYNER:
John Manack owned 250 acres on Cold Water Creek adjoining land of Mary's father, Richard Tyner.
The inventory records of John Manack indicate he died in 1796, about three years before Tamar and Moses Hunt's daughter Mary was born. Inventory of John Monack. [sp?] Mary Monack applied
Mary's daughter had 10 children one of them being, Thomas Banks Henderson. Thomas Banks Henderson's letter, written in 1909 when he was in his eighties, is quoted below:
Child of MARY TYNER and JOHN MONIAC is:
Child of MARY TYNER and JAMES RILEY is:
41. SAMUEL TYNER (RICHARD , JOHN HARRIS , SARAH , NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1763 in Johnston County, North Carolina, and died in Elbert County, Georgia, USA.
Notes for SAMUEL TYNER:
Children of SAMUEL TYNER are:
42. TAMAR TYNER (RICHARD , JOHN HARRIS , SARAH , NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1767 in Georgia, and died Abt. 1840 in Georgia, USA. She married MOSES HUNT February 11, 1790 in Wilkes, Elbert County, Georgia, USA, son of JAMES HUNT and MARY RACKLEY. He was born June 18, 1760 in Franklin County, North Carolina, and died Abt. 1842 in Elbert County, Georgia, USA.
Notes for TAMAR TYNER:
Moses was a Revolutionary War soldier, serving as Major in Dobbs Battalian, and received Bounty Land Grants for his service in the Georgia Militia. He gained land in the Georgia land lottery in Elbert Co. in 1825. He was left $1.00 in his father's will. Moses left a will in Elbert Co., Georgia, naming his wife and children; the will was made June 6, 1839, and probated March 12, 1842.
Children of TAMAR TYNER and MOSES HUNT are:
43. JOSHUA E. TYNER (RICHARD , JOHN HARRIS , SARAH , NICHOLAS) was born July 21, 1767 in Wilkes County, Georgia, USA, and died December 26, 1838 in Franklin County, Illinois, USA. He married WINIFRED TEASLEY January 24, 1793 in Wilkes County, Georgia, USA, daughter of JOHN TEASLEY and LUCY HUNT. She was born December 04, 1775 in North Carolina, USA, and died January 17, 1842 in Williamson County, Illinois, USA.
Notes for JOSHUA E. TYNER:
Pvt Joshua Tyner, GA Cont'l, placed on pension rolls 28 Mar 1833, age 67, moved to Franklin Co. Illinois. (http://www.iltrails.org/1835pensioners3.htm)
Sources include http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mysouthernfamily/myff/d0061/g0000000.html and http://www.iltrails.org/williamson/erwin_hx_1.htm
Joshua Tyner, Jackson Co, IL #26,188
There is a letter to a Mrs. Nannie G. Parks, Marion Carnegie Library, Marion, IL 11/6/1936.
.....A letter from the Department of Justice, Office of the Soliciter of the Treasury, Washington DC 6/28/1921 from R. E. Tyner asked for the pension information.
He was born July 21, 1769, in Wilkes Co., GA and died Dec. 26, 1838 in Franklin Co., ILL. (This and other dates on his family taken from a family Bible that Joshua had kept wrapped in a deer skin. )
The settlement of Marion began in 1826, William Benson lived on Poor Prairie, now the Cox place, then Martin Spiller, now the Goddard place, Tipo S Williams, now the Aikman place and a Mr Tyner (more likely Tiner) now the C & SRR depo, all lived the area. In 1835 Benson bought out Tyner and the cabin of the widow of Col James D Pully.
There is a story that Joshua expressed a wish to be buried on the big Muddy River near Blairsville [Illinois] where he lived. When he was elderly, he left his family and went to live in an Indian settlement near the river. He was an herb doctor. He was buried "Indian Style" by the Big Muddy River. In 1930 workmen excavating for the new bridge near Blairsville, Illinois, disturbed an Indian Burial Ground. Some believed it was Joshua's.
Per Cindy Fuller, February 08, 2004 , Rootsweb's Tyner message board: "Joshua Tyner, according to family, was buried in a mound on the Big Muddy River. In the 1930s, The mound was accidentally dug up as they were building a bridge there. He was supposidly buried at Blairsville Cemetery. There was no grave stone because they could not positively identify him when they dug up the mound. According to my mother, She has talked to several caretakers of Blairsville Cemetery that there are several hundred unknown graves at the cemetery. As they dig a grave, they sometimes find someone had been buried in the spot. When they used to bury someone, they buried them anywhere without marking them. The unknown graves are supposidly right behind the cemetery in the woods you can see a clearing. Joshua maybe buried there in a mass grave. His body was dug up supposidly with other Indian's (unknown if Cherokee)and they were buried together or near each other. It is a story that I was told. G-G-G-Great Grandpa Joshua went to live with the Indians on the river and was an herbal doctor according to family."
There is no evidence of Indian blood. Per ROCKYMOUNTAINNEWS.COM at http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_3841949,00.html
Wilson Cemetery, Williamson County, Illinois
Tiner, Richard - b. 17 Jan 1854; aged 55y 6m (son of Joshua and Winifred Teasley Tiner/Tyner)
Tyner, Lucinda - b. 14 Sep 1820; d. 2 Feb. 1897 (Daughter of Wm. McDowell and Nancy Bailey Russell. Lucinda was married first to Jos. or Jas. Arnold; her second marriage was to Richard Tiner/Tyner; her third husband was James Myers)
Tyner, J. M. - b. 16 Jun. 1849; d. 22 Oct. 1911 (James Monroe was the son of Richard and Lucinda Russell Tiner/Tyner)
Tyner, Donald - b. 1922; d. 1929
Tyner, Reba - b. 1905; d. 1928
Tyner, Wanita Agnes, dau of Asgal & Lottie - b. 26 Nov. 1908; d. 23 Nov. 1914
Children of JOSHUA TYNER and WINIFRED TEASLEY are:
44. HARRIS TYNER (RICHARD , JOHN HARRIS , SARAH , NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1770 in Elbert County, Georgia, and died Abt. 1844 in Elbert County, Georgia, USA. He married RUTHEA JANE TOLLISON Abt. 1794 in Elbert County, Georgia, USA. She was born 1774 in Elbert County, Georgia, and died Abt. 1850 in Elbert County, Georgia, USA.
Notes for HARRIS TYNER:
1820 Tyner, Harris 45 ov GA Elbert Unknown 166 011101 3220103000 1 male 10-16, 1 male 16-18, 1 male 18-26, 1 male 45 ov, 3 fem under 10, 2 fem 10-16, 2 fem 16-26, 1 fem 45 ov
1824 Tyner, Harris GA Elbert Unknown 0
In 1832, Harris Tiner bought at the estate sale of John Brady whose estate was admin by Robert Brady, James Taggrt and Thomas Parker, who stood at bond. Posted at Lebenon Church, Abbeville. INV taken by James Gray, Nines Thompson and Dr. John S. Reid. Is that this Harris Tyner?
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Pp. 329 TINER, HARRIS Box 93 - Pack 2306
Pp 344 Weed, Elizabeth Box 97 Pack 2378
In the name of God Amen. I Harris Tyner of the State of Georgia & County of Elbert being much afflicked in body but sound in mind & knowing that is appointed for all men once to die I make & ordain this my last will & Testament willing my soul to God who gave it & my body to be buried in a decent & Christian like manner & as tuching such worldly goods as it has pleased God to blep me with I give & devise in the following manner & form, to wit.
Codicy to this my last will
Georgia } Court of ordianary September Term 1844
Georgia } Court of ordinary September Term 1844
Source: Elbert County, Georgia Will Book A, pg. 84 and 85
Children of HARRIS TYNER and RUTHEA TOLLISON are:
Notes for MARY ANN TYNER:
Notes for JAMES ANGLIN:
Child of MARTHA TYNER and JAMES ANGLIN is:
The above data is incorrect. Daniel Benjamin was not the son of James Anglin son of Henry. Nor is he
Daniel Benjamin?
45. NOAH TYNER (RICHARD , JOHN HARRIS , SARAH , NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1774 in Wilkes County, Georgia, USA, and died Abt. 1818 in Montgomery County, Tennessee, USA. He married PRISCILLA TEASLEY Abt. 1789 in Elbert County, Georgia, USA, daughter of JOHN TEASLEY and LUCY HUNT. She was born Abt. 1778 in North Carolina, USA, and died May 08, 1846 in Montgomery County, Tennessee, USA.
Notes for NOAH TYNER:
During the Indian raid on the Tyner farm after the Battle of Kettle Creek, Noah, then about nine years old, hid in a hollow tree and escaped the Indians.
Priscilla Tyner is found in the 1820 census of Montgomery Co., TN
Children of NOAH TYNER and PRISCILLA TEASLEY are:
46. ELIZABETH TYNER (RICHARD , JOHN HARRIS , SARAH , NICHOLAS) was born May 1780 in Wilkes County, Georgia, USA, and died Aft. 1860 in Pickens District, South Carolina, USA. She married WILLIAM B. BOATRIGHT in Wilkes County (now Elbert County), Georgia, USA, son of WILLIAM BOATRIGHT and MARY ?. He was born May 29, 1774 in Cumberland County, Virginia, and died February 21, 1851 in Pickens District, South Carolina, USA.
Notes for ELIZABETH TYNER:
Children of ELIZABETH TYNER and WILLIAM BOATRIGHT are:
47. FRANCES TYNER (RICHARD , JOHN HARRIS , SARAH , NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1782 in Wilkes County, Georgia, USA, and died Aft. 1840 in Elbert County, Georgia, USA. She married THOMPSON MCGUIRE Abt. 1795, son of ZACHARIAH MCGUIRE. He was born Abt. 1760 in Cumberland County, Virginia, and died Aft. 1840 in Campbellton, Campbell County, Georgia. USA.
Notes for FRANCES TYNER:
Sources include W. Randy Haynes' page at http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/h/a/y/Randy-Haynes-NV/
Notes for THOMPSON MCGUIRE:
Rebecca Miller [miller at ionet.net] Sat Oct 5, 1996
Children of FRANCES TYNER and THOMPSON MCGUIRE are:
Notes for FREDERICK MCGUIRE:
48. ABIGAIL TYNER (RICHARD , JOHN HARRIS , SARAH , NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1786 in Wilkes County, Georgia, and died Bet. 1856 - 1860 in Franklin County, Alabama, USA. She married JAMES CRITTENDON Abt. 1802 in Washington, Jackson County, Georgia, USA, son of CHARLES CRITTENDEN and NANCY DOWNING. He was born Abt. 1780 in Virginia, and died Abt. 1850 in Franklin County, Alabama, USA.
Notes for ABIGAIL TYNER:
Emmet Starr's book, "History of the Cherokee Indians"
Children of ABIGAIL TYNER and JAMES CRITTENDON are:
49. AGNES TYNER (RICHARD , JOHN HARRIS , SARAH , NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1788 in Wilkes County, Georgia, USA. She married ROBERT GREEN CRUMP Abt. 1806 in Georgia, USA, son of ROBERT CRUMP and MARY PARR. He was born Abt. 1781 in Stokes County, North Carolina or Pittsylvania County, Virginia?, and died June 10, 1856 in Franklin County, Georgia, USA.
Notes for AGNES TYNER:
Sources include http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=sriddle&id=I59920 and http://www.crumprealty.com/tynergen.html
www.allthingscherokee.com
Children of AGNES TYNER and ROBERT CRUMP are:
50. RICHARD TYNER (RICHARD , JOHN HARRIS , SARAH , NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1788 in Elbert County, Georgia, USA, and died Bef. 1850 in Georgia, USA. He married ELIZABETH HARMON May 31, 1821 in Elbert County, Georgia, USA. She was born Abt. 1793 in Georgia, and died in Hart County, Georgia, USA.
Notes for RICHARD TYNER:
.........1850 Census of Elbert Co, GA
.........1860 Census Hart Co, GA
1880 Census Place Shoal Creek, Hart, Georgia
A query at http://www.allthingscherokee.com claims his Cherokee name was "Black Haw."
Children of RICHARD TYNER and ELIZABETH HARMON are:
Notes for MARTHA TYNER:
ii. MATILDA TYNER, b. Abt. 1834, Georgia.
Notes for MARY TYNER:
51. MARTHA B. TYNER (RICHARD , JOHN HARRIS , SARAH , NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1792 in Elbert County, Georgia, USA, and died Aft. 1850 in Dekalb County, Georgia, USA. She married JOHN MAYFIELD BIRD February 07, 1812 in Elbert County, Georgia, USA, son of SOLOMON BIRD and NANCY BRITT. He was born Abt. 1789 in Edgefield County, South Carolina, USA, and died Aft. 1865 in possibly Avondale, Dekalb County, Georgia, USA.
Notes for MARTHA B. TYNER:
John Bird was executor of his brother-in-law's will after Harris Tyner's son, Tollison Tyner died in 1854.
Children of MARTHA TYNER and JOHN BIRD are:
52. CHARITY TYNER (RICHARD , JOHN HARRIS , SARAH , NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1794 in Elbert County, Georgia, USA, and died Bef. 1824. She married BILLIINGS BRITT BIRD February 15, 1815 in Elbert County, Georgia, USA, son of SOLOMON BIRD and NANCY BRITT. He was born Abt. 1794 in Edgefield County, South Carolina, USA.
Notes for CHARITY TYNER:
Children of CHARITY TYNER and BILLIINGS BIRD are:
Notes for SARAH BIRD:
ii. MARTHA BIRD.
53. RICHARD TYNER (HARRIS , JOHN HARRIS , SARAH , NICHOLAS) was born August 04, 1770 in Abbeville District, South Carolina, and died January 01, 1836 in Shelbyville, Shelby County, Indiana, USA. He married ELIZABETH OSBORNE Abt. 1792 in Abbeville District, South Carolina, USA, daughter of THOMAS OSBORN and ELIZABETH SIMPSON. She was born August 14, 1769, and died October 14, 1846 in Shelby County, Indiana, USA.
Notes for RICHARD TYNER:
Notes for ELIZABETH OSBORNE:
Children of RICHARD TYNER and ELIZABETH OSBORNE are:
54. WILLIAM JASPER TYNER (HARRIS , JOHN HARRIS , SARAH , NICHOLAS) was born April 09, 1771 in Abbeville County, South Carolina, and died September 18, 1855 in Decatur County, Indiana, USA. He met (1) ELIZABETH HACKLEMAN Abt. 1793 in Lincoln County, North Carolina, USA, daughter of JOHAN HACKLEMAN and MARY OSBORN. She was born July 20, 1774 in Lincoln County, North Carolina, and died August 20, 1810 in Fayette County, Indiana, USA. He married (2) MARTHA JANE HAMILTON Abt. 1811 in Scott County, Kentucky, USA. She was born 1775 in Virginia, and died June 01, 1840 in Decatur County, Indiana, USA. He married (3) NANCY JANE CALLAHAN August 28, 1842 in Decatur County, Indiana. She was born Abt. 1798 in Kentucky, USA.
Notes for WILLIAM JASPER TYNER:
1850 - Sand Creek, Decatur, Indiana
Elijah Hackleman, on the 4 families of Tyner, Hackleman, Osborn, and Sailors:
http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~butlercounty/indiancreek.html
(The following is from a booklet dated September 8, 1963, commemorating the Restoration and Dedication of Indian Creek Pioneer Burial Ground and Church.):
MEMOIR OBITUARY, March 29, 1890, pg 6., THE GREENSBURG SATURDAY REVIEW,
Quoted From THE ATLAS OF FRANKLIN COUNTY INDIANA 1882 (reprinted 1976)
"Mr. William Tyner, a Baptist minister- -William Tyner settled on the next farm near Brown's Hill." (farm above)
"William Tyner settled on the next farm above John Hall on the Mense Farm".
"In the spring of 1805, Mr. William Tyner, a Baptist minister settled about one and one half miles below Brookville".
Pg 14 - William Tyner performed the first marriage on record in the county:
Tax form 1811 - William Tyner - 3 horses 37 1/2 C, John Tyner - 2 horses 37 1/2 C, James Tyner - 1 horse 37 1/2 C
Pg 52 - "The church on Little Cedar Creek was favored with the ministry of two men of rare worth, whose names were long as ointment poured forth, Rev. William DeWeese and Rev. William Tyner." This is a quote from Rev. T. A. Good win in his recollections. Members of Little Cedar Grove Creek Church - John Tyner, wife Fannie and James Tyner.
Pg 61 - 1810 - Rec. into the church, Minnie Tyner - Soloman Tyner.
"A committee to devise a plan to build a meeting house on land William Tyner owned. They precluded and made choice of the place on the bank of the river, at the ford which crosses to go over to John Hall's and also agree to build a meeting house with hewed logs, and the size we have agreed upon is twenty two by forty, and also high enough for galleries.."
New members of Little Cedar Church - July 4, 1812 - Apr. 3 1830 - Malinda Tyner - John Tyner.
A tombstone found in the old cemetery of the church was Elizabeth, beloved wife of William Tyner ......
Pg 99 - Williams Tyner made 2nd entry of land...Sept. 28, 1804.
Pg 113 - Pioneer Settlement .....Brookville township was the east half of Section 4, township 9, range 2, and that it was entered by Robert Templeton on September 24, 1804. the second entry was made four days later (September 28, 1804) by William Tyner, who claimed the southwest quarter of Section 33,
Pg 138 - James H. Morgan and James M. Tyner March 1849 left to find gold in California.
Lefforge, John (Estate Probate)
Notes for ELIZABETH HACKLEMAN:
Notes for NANCY JANE CALLAHAN:
Children of WILLIAM TYNER and ELIZABETH HACKLEMAN are:
Children of WILLIAM TYNER and MARTHA HAMILTON are:
55. SUSANNAH TYNER (HARRIS , JOHN HARRIS , SARAH , NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1772 in Abbeville, South Carolina, and died March 01, 1813 in Jackson Co., Georgia. She married JONATHAN KOLB Abt. 1790, son of JACOB KOLB. He was born Abt. 1770 in Abbeville District, South Carolina, and died Abt. 1812 in Jackson County, Georgia.
Notes for JONATHAN KOLB:
Children of SUSANNAH TYNER and JONATHAN KOLB are:
Notes for JAMES CARL KOLB:
On August 1, 1814, James Kolb, 12 years old, orphan son of Jonathan Kolb deceased was bound to Abraham Scott; Susannah Kolb, ditto, three years, was bound to David Witt.
vii. MARY ANN KOLB, b. Abt. 1805, Georgia; m. WILLIAM BATEY, Abt. 1846.
Notes for SUSANNAH KOLB:
56. MEHITABEL TYNER (HARRIS , JOHN HARRIS , SARAH , NICHOLAS) was born March 19, 1774 in Abbeville District, South Carolina, and died February 23, 1848 in Fayette County, Indiana, USA. She married RICHARD JONES KOLB Abt. 1798 in Abbeville District, South Carolina, son of HARMON KOLB. He was born October 03, 1775 in Abbeville District, South Carolina, and died August 18, 1842 in Fayette County, Indiana, USA.
Notes for MEHITABEL TYNER:
Children of MEHITABEL TYNER and RICHARD KOLB are:
Notes for JONATHAN GORDON:
180. vii. ELIZABETH KOLB, b. December 24, 1810, Franklin County, Indiana, USA.
Notes for LEANNER KOLB:
2 Sept 1870 Vineyard Township, Lawrence County, Missouri
1880 - Washington, Webster, Missouri
xi. NANCY ADAIR KOLB, b. June 28, 1821, Fayette County, Indiana, USA; d. November 28, 1889, Carroll County, Indiana, USA.
Notes for NANCY ADAIR KOLB:
1880 - Washington, Webster, Missouri
57. JAMES TYNER (HARRIS , JOHN HARRIS , SARAH , NICHOLAS) was born August 17, 1776 in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina, USA, and died December 08, 1823 in Harrison Twp., Fayette Co., Indiana, USA. He married MARGARET GIVENS January 19, 1799 in Abbeville District, South Carolina, USA. She was born Abt. 1776 in Harrison Twp., Fayette Co., Indiana, USA, and died August 28, 1838 in Harrison Twp., Fayette Co., Indiana, USA.
Notes for JAMES TYNER:
Sources include Don T. Mitchell, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=donmitch1&id=I04461
Notes for MARGARET GIVENS:
Children of JAMES TYNER and MARGARET GIVENS are:
58. JOHN TYNER (HARRIS , JOHN HARRIS , SARAH , NICHOLAS) was born August 17, 1776 in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina, and died January 09, 1822 in Harrison Township, Fayette County, Indiana, USA. He married FANNY TAYLOR MARTIN November 17, 1799, daughter of GILES MARTIN and LURLEEN MOORE. She was born August 04, 1779 in South Carolina, and died August 10, 1845 in Harrison Township, Fayette County, Indiana, USA.
Notes for JOHN TYNER:
Children of JOHN TYNER and FANNY MARTIN are:
Notes for NANCY TYNER:
1850 - Washington, Rush, Indiana
1860 census Rush/Rushville #182/182
1860 Pipe Creek Twp, Madison Co, IN Census, pg 342, 10 Jul 1860, line 13, dwelling/family 830/830-
192. v. JAMES A. TYNER, b. September 19, 1807, Abbeville District, South Carolina, USA; d. November 03, 1897, Brandywine Township, Hancock County, Indiana, USA.
Notes for JOHN HARRIS TYNER:
59. MARGARET TYNER (HARRIS , JOHN HARRIS , SARAH , NICHOLAS) was born November 17, 1778 in Abbeville District, South Carolina, USA, and died June 20, 1845 in Rush County, Indiana, USA. She married ABRAHAM HACKLEMAN September 01, 1796 in North Carolina, USA, son of JOHAN HACKLEMAN and MARY OSBORN. He was born September 25, 1775 in King's Mountain, Lincoln, North Carolina, and died October 16, 1858 in Cedar Grove, Wabash County, Indiana, USA.
Notes for ABRAHAM HACKLEMAN:
TIMELINE:
Children of MARGARET TYNER and ABRAHAM HACKLEMAN are:
Notes for PRESTON HACKLEMAN:
viii. POLLY HACKLEMAN, b. February 11, 1810, Franklin County, Indiana; d. June 1812.
60. DEMPSEY TYNER (WILLIAM , WILLIAM , SARAH , NICHOLAS) was born August 04, 1755 in Chowan County, North Carolina, USA, and died October 13, 1842 in Meriwether County, Georgia, USA. He married OBEDIENCE HILLARD SEVIER. She was born September 04, 1755 in South Carolina, USA, and died October 13, 1842 in Meriwether County, Georgia, USA.
Notes for DEMPSEY TYNER:
From Judith Rittenhouse:
Dempsey Tyner Land Grant 14 Jul 1807 Jackson County, GA
The following is transcribed from Demsey Tyner's Rev. War Pension Application. The transcriber wrote "My copy is so dim that it would not reproduce but by very careful examination it is readable in most of the cases." The application was approved and a pension of $80.00 per annum was granted.
State of Georgia } Meriwether County )
Department Revolutionary Claim
Given at the War Office of the United States this 28th day of September one eight hundred and thirty three.
--1840 Census for Meriweather Co., GA lists Jackson Tyner's household with one male and one female from 80-90 years old in addition to Jackson age 60-70, his wife age 40-50 and five children. Judith Rittenhouse believes this older couple to be Demsey and Obedience Tyner.
--13 Oct 1842 Dempsey died in Meriweather Co., GA, according to Obedience's application for his Rev. War Pension. Tyner-Huddleston Bible gives "Demsey Tyner departed this life on Tuesday night the 13th of October A.D., 1843, aged 87 years." Bible record from Tap Roots magazine sent by Robert S. Davis to Judith Rittenhouse. Soldiers of the Revolutionary War of 1812 - The History of Hamilton County and Chattanooga, Tn, Vol. 1, by Zella Armstrong. "Demsey [Dempsey] Tyner, soldier of the Revolution, born in Chowan, County, N.C. Aug 4, 1755, died in Hamilton County, Oct 13, 1842. He is buried in the neighborhood which is now called Tyner's Station."
--1842 Obedience, Demsey's wife, applies for his pension in 1842 from Meriweather Co., GA. A Mary Tyner signed the papers as a witness for the wife Obedience. Obedience filed for the rest of Demsey's pension on 30 June 1845 and probably died before 1850. Research by Judith Rittenhouse.
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(James Russell has Dempsey's pension data in full at http://www.angelfire.com/ok/battle1/dempsey.html )
--2 Dec 1842 Jacksn Tyner, Sr., Departed this life on the 2nd Dec. A.D. 1843, aged 66 years, according to Tyner- Huddleston Bible from Tap Roots.***
EARLY HAMILTON SETTLERS, printed by Sheridan Books, Inc., copyright 2001 by John Wilson, pg. 310-312:
From: Jerry Cranford [mailto:jerry_cranford at comcast.net]
From: "Jerry Cranford"
Other sources include http://www.angelfire.com/ok/battle1/dempsey.html
Notes for OBEDIENCE HILLARD SEVIER:
THERE WASN'T ROOM UNDER DEMPSEY FOR THIS DATA FROM JUDITH RITTENHOUSE:
Children of DEMPSEY TYNER and OBEDIENCE SEVIER are:
61. ELIJAH PADGETT (ELIJAH , WILLIAM , MARGARET TYNER, NICHOLAS) was born February 16, 1791. He married SUSANNAH EUBANKS. She was born June 22, 1798.
Children of ELIJAH PADGETT and SUSANNAH EUBANKS are:
62. GRACE PADGETT (JOSIAH , WILLIAM , MARGARET TYNER, NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1779 in Edgefield County, South Carolina. She married (1) HARDY HOWARD. She married (2) ABSOLUM WATSON.
Child of GRACE PADGETT and ABSOLUM WATSON is:
63. HENRY PADGETT (JOSIAH , WILLIAM , MARGARET TYNER, NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1780 in Edgefield County, South Carolina, and died January 1830 in Edgefield County, South Carolina. He married PENELOPE EIDSON Abt. 1799. She was born 1785 in Edgefield County, South Carolina.
Children of HENRY PADGETT and PENELOPE EIDSON are:
64. MARK PADGETT (JOSIAH , WILLIAM , MARGARET TYNER, NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1782 in Edgefield County, South Carolina, and died June 1837 in Edgefield County, South Carolina. He married MARY WATSON. She was born Abt. 1784.
Children of MARK PADGETT and MARY WATSON are:
65. JOSIAH PADGETT (JOSIAH , WILLIAM , MARGARET TYNER, NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1788 in Edgefield County, South Carolina, and died December 21, 1844 in Edgefield County, South Carolina. He married SARAH WATSON. She was born Abt. 1790.
Notes for JOSIAH PADGETT:
Children of JOSIAH PADGETT and SARAH WATSON are:
66. SAMUEL PADGETT (JOSIAH , WILLIAM , MARGARET TYNER, NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1790 in Edgefield County, South Carolina, and died February 05, 1860. He married MARY EIDSON. She was born Abt. 1800.
Children of SAMUEL PADGETT and MARY EIDSON are:
67. ARTHUR JEFFERSON PADGETT (JOSIAH , WILLIAM , MARGARET TYNER, NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1798 in Edgefield County, South Carolina, and died September 06, 1853 in Edgefield County, South Carolina. He married WINIFRED WHITTLE Abt. 1814 in Edgefield County, South Carolina. She was born Abt. 1800 in Edgefield County, South Carolina.
Children of ARTHUR PADGETT and WINIFRED WHITTLE are:
68. SARAH PADGETT (JOB , WILLIAM , MARGARET TYNER, NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1785 in Edgefield County, South Carolina. She married WILLIAM JONES.
Children of SARAH PADGETT and WILLIAM JONES are:
69. JOB PADGETT (JOB , WILLIAM , MARGARET TYNER, NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1787 in Edgefield County, South Carolina, and died Abt. 1875 in Randolph County, Alabama, USA. He married (1) ELIZABETH BODIE. She was born Aft. 1790 in Edgefield County, South Carolina. He married (2) ?. He married (3) MARIAH DARDEN March 11, 1833. She was born Abt. 1802 in Warren County, Georgia, USA.
Children of JOB PADGETT and ELIZABETH BODIE are:
Children of JOB PADGETT and MARIAH DARDEN are:
70. MARGARET PADGETT (JOB , WILLIAM , MARGARET TYNER, NICHOLAS) was born April 19, 1795 in Edgefield County, South Carolina, and died March 01, 1884. She married JAMES C. WHITTLE.
Children of MARGARET PADGETT and JAMES WHITTLE are:
71. JANE PADGETT (JOB , WILLIAM , MARGARET TYNER, NICHOLAS) was born January 10, 1800 in Edgefield County, South Carolina. She married WILLIAM MCGEE Abt. 1824 in Edgefield County, South Carolina. He was born 1797 in Edgefield County, South Carolina.
Children of JANE PADGETT and WILLIAM MCGEE are:
72. CHESLEY PADGETT (JOB , WILLIAM , MARGARET TYNER, NICHOLAS) was born Abt. 1803 in Edgefield County, South Carolina, and died September 19, 1857 in Sand Flats, Van Sant County, Texas. He married ELIZABETH A. ? Abt. 1827 in Edgefield County, South Carolina. She was born May 20, 1810 in South Carolina, and died May 16, 1881 in Van Zandt County, Texas.
Children of CHESLEY PADGETT and ELIZABETH ? are:
73. WILLIAM PADGETT (JOB , WILLIAM , MARGARET TYNER, NICHOLAS) was born April 09, 1804 in Edgefield County, South Carolina, and died December 03, 1884 in Edgefield County, South Carolina. He married (1) MARGARET DENNY Abt. 1821 in Edgefield County, South Carolina. She was born December 03, 1804 in Edgefield County, South Carolina. He married (2) NANCY ? Abt. 1858 in Edgefield County, South Carolina. She was born 1837 in Edgefield County, South Carolina.
Notes for WILLIAM PADGETT:
Children of WILLIAM PADGETT and MARGARET DENNY are:
Children of WILLIAM PADGETT and NANCY ? are:
From: "Richard Long"
To: TYNER-L at rootsweb.com
.....I have read various speculations about Sarah Tyner, dau of Nicholas and her relationship to John Harris.
.....Has anyone entertained the thought that I have, that she might have been part American Indian?
.....We find her in 1708 living about 300 miles inland on the Catawba River on what would later be the North Carolina and South Carolina border, although at that time it was all called just Carolina. As far as I know, at this time, this was Indian country, an area where white traders would journey to trade with the Indians but not yet settled by white men.
.....Also, Sarah was apparently cohabitating with John Harris who had a wife in the eastern part of the state in the Chowan Precinct, which he gave as his home when he made out his will. It is not unheard of for a man to have a mistress. It would improve their relations with the Indians if a trader took an Indian or mixed-breed as a wife or mistress. In some cases, the Indians required the traders to take an Indian wife in order to do business with them.
.....The mixed-breeds were usually somewhat of outcasts by both the whites and the Indians. If their skin was light enough they would pass as whites, but more often they were considered Indians.
.....Sarah's birth date is critical to this theory. We know that Nicholas came to America in 1679 with no wife and 5 children. Was Sarah one of the five? I have seen 6 or 7 children listed. Does anyone have proof of when Sarah was born? I have seen several different dates for her birth , some of which are after Nicholas arrived here. If she were born after his arrival, then it would be not only possible that Nicholas had Sarah by an Indian woman but it would be most likely as there were very few white women here at that time.
.....Margaret Oliver is given as Nicholas wife's name. Was this his wife in England? That is certainly an Anglo name, however, Indians took Anglo names very often, especially the women who married white men. I have even seen men who had been married to women in England who took Indians wives who took the name of the English wife.
.....I have seen Oliver given as Nicholas' middle name, which seems curious to me. How many people at that time in history used middle names? And what are the odds that he would have the same middle name as his wife's surname by chance. This might be explained if he was married to an Indian woman. The Indians in that area were matriarchal and their name was the dominant one. Although I have not before seen the husband taking the wife's Indian name. Nevertheless, it was the Indian mother's surname that was given to the children, not the father's. This would explain why Sarah and John Harris's children were named Tyner instead of Harris.
.....Also, consider the many connections Sarah's descendents had with Indians - marrying and living with them. And also , her father's slighting her in his will. It was not uncommon for white men to totally disinherit their mixed-breed children.
.....I would love to have your thoughts and input.
Sue Long
Jane,
Just thought you would like to know that the John Harris/Sarah Tyner relationship did in fact bear natural children. The children were not adopted by John Harris as some speculate. The DNA results just came in 2 days ago, and a living Tyner is confirmed to have the same Y-Chromosome DNA markers as a living Harris. The common ancestor is Thomas Harris 1636 IOW.
Further up the direct male line are included the powerful Heriz knights of Nottingham. Even further back, these are Normans that were with William the Conqueror during the Battle of Hastings. The Heriz knights were feudatory to William Pevrel, the natural son of William the Conqueror. Evidence
suggests that the Heriz family either fought alongside Pevrel or Robert de Beaumont during the Battle of Hastings.
Cheers,
Michael Harris
DEED BOOK W #1 CHOWAN CO. NORTH CAROLINA:
p. 42 Thomas Clark of Chowan Precinct to John Harris of Chowan Prec. Oct. 1, 1703 assignment of a deed.J. Bryan Grimes, NORTH CAROLINA WILLS AND INVENTORIES (1912)
"In the Name of God Amen. I, Jno Harris, in ye County of Albemarle, in ye precinct of Chowan, in ye province of North Carolina, planter, being sick & weak in body, but of perfect sound mind & memory, Doe make this my last will & Testimony, revoking all other wills, verbal or writeing, made before by me, I Committ my Soul To almighty God that Gave itt me; & my body to ye Dust from whence itt came, to be Decently buried according to ye rules of ye Christian burial, in full & certain hopes of ye Glorious resurrection att ye last day; & as for all my personal and real Estate wch itt hath pleased God to Endew me withall I bequith & bestowe as followeth, after my Debts is paid & my funeral Expences is Discharged.
I Give and bequeith unto Harris, ye Son of Sarah Tiner, ye plantation wheron I now Dwell & all ye land belonging to itt, after my wifes Decease, when he shall Come to ye Age of twenty one years, to him ye sd. Harris, & to ye heirs of his Body lawfully begotten for ever, not to Sell any part or parcel w'tsoever, Likewise, I Give unto Harris, ye Son of Sarah Tiner, my Gunn & also my proper marke after my Decease, which is a crope and Slite in ye right year and a swallow forke in ye left yeare.
I give & bequiett unto William, ye son of Sarah Tiner, two plantations leying on ye head of Machacomack Creek, call by ye name of ye holes, with all ye land thereunto belonging, to ye sd. William, & the heirs of his body lawfully begotten for ever, to be possessed when he shall Come to ye Age of twenty one years, not to Sell no pt. nor parcel of it w'tsoever; & if any one of these Sons of Sarah Tiner, Either Harris or William, Dye before they Come to ye Age of twenty one years without heirs of their Body lawfully begotten, then it is my Desire ye land of him that Dyes Shall to Sarah, ye Daughter of Sarah Tiner, for a legace to ye said Sarah & to ye heirs of her body lawfully begotten for ever; & if ye said Sarah, ye Daughter of Sarah Tiner, Dye without heirs lawfully begotten, then ye land to fall to ye son that's living & to ye heirs of his body lawfully begotten for Ever. Likewise, I Give unto Sarah, ye Daughter of Sarah Tiner, one young Gray mare runing in ye rockahock neck, with all her Increase, to ye sd. Sarah & her heirs for Ever.
I Give & bequeith unto Sarah Tiner one plantation & all ye tract of land belonging to itt, lying in Rockahock neck, is nowne by ye name of Jno. fryers, to ye sd. Sarah Tiner & her heirs for Ever; & as for my personal Estate, my stock & housall Goods I bestow as followeth:
I Give & bequeith unto my loving wife, Mildred Harris, ye one half of my Estate During her life; & all ye rest of my Estate moveables & Immoveables, I Give & bequeith as legace unto Harris & William, ye sons of Sarah Tiner, to be equally & farely devided between them ye sd. Harris & William when they Shall arrive to ye age of Eighteen years.
& I Doe here Impute Constitute & appoint my true & Trusty friends, Jno. Mixon & Sarah Tiner, to be my whole & Sole Exect. & Extrx. of this my last will & Testamt.
As wittness hereof, I have fixed my hand & Seal this 16th (:) Day of December, 1711.
John X Harris
Signed Sealed & Delivered in ye p'escence of us:
Edward E. Patchet
John X Wells
Mary M. Tiner
Recorded in Will Book 2, page 48."
Posted by Lance Bretsnyder on July 11, 1998 at 00:13:11:
In Reply to: Re: Isham Harris b. 1741 questions. posted by Keith Merck on July 02, 1998 at 23:08:34:
The Isham Harris who m. Martha Mable Green was the son of Maj. West Harris who was born in the Isle of Wight Co. Virginia. in 1714 and who early on moved to Granville Co., NC. and later to Salisbury Co., NC, if my memory serves me right. The Civil War era governor of Tennessee is descended from that particular line. West in turn was the son of Edward Harris of the Isle of wight who was the son of Thomas(Jr.) of the Isle of Wight and in turn was the son of Thomas Harris & Alice West. Thomas, b. ca. 1614, was the son of John Harrys & Dorothy (Lymbrey or Calcott). John, b. ca. 1585, was the son of Sir William Harrys & Alice Smythe of Crixse in Essex, Eng. & the brother of Capt. Thomas Harrys of Henrico Co., Va. See Boddie, Historical Southern Families re the Harris family of Charles City Co. & Isle of Wight Co., Va.
From: Glubber001 at aol.com
This Harris genealogy is confusing since there are so many Harris. I hope this information is right but together maybe we can figure it out. I show a John Harris married Mildred with a sister Jane. I list their parents as Thomas Harris and Ann Martin. I show Thomas Harris as being born 1636 in Charles City County, Virginia dying 1688 in Isle of Wight, Virginia. I have no other information of Ann Martin. I do show that they had the following children. Edward Harris married Mary Turner, Jane Harris marring Jones, John Harris married Mildred, Thomas married Judith Edwards, Robert married Ann Fulgham, George married Martha, Martin, William married Rebecca, Ann. The interesting thing I show is that John Harris married second Sarah Tyner the daughter of Micholas Tyner. I show no children with Mildred but 3 with Sarah Tyner. I show them listed as John Harris, William Tyner Harris and Sarah Tyner Harris. Please let me know what you think. I show no spouses and just birth years of John and William. I don't even know where I picked this up at so could be all messed up.
Thank You
Sherry Turner Casey
8. i. JOHN HARRIS TYNER, b. Abt. 1693, Little River, Laurent County, South Carolina; d. Abt. 1767, Johnson County, North Carolina.
9. ii. WILLIAM TYNER, b. Bet. 1698 - 1704; d. Abt. 1760, Bertie County, North Carolina.
10. iii. SARAH TYNER, b. Abt. 1705, Lancaster County, South Carolina.
Source for William's siblings and Padgett descendants, mostly: Bob Suddath's "Suddath and Freeman Families" WorldTree at ancestry.com. Robert Suddath, 10405 Red Mtn W, Littleton CO 80127, USA, rasuddath at msn.com
Wife MARGARET - the manor plantation, all the household goods, all stock; also 130 acres joining HALSEY; also 350 acres on Bear Swamp.
Ex. Wife, brother SAMUEL PAGET
Wit. JOHN PAGET, WM.(x)ASHLEY, JOHN(x)ROBINSON
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Notes for EDWARD PARKETT: Edward Padgett witnessed a deed on 8 Oct. 1715 where Nicholas Tiner of Va. was giving John Nairne of Albemarle County power of attorney to recover debts for him.
11. i. WILLIAM PADGETT, b. Abt. 1720, Chowan County, North Carolina; d. April 20, 1768, St. Bartholomew, Colleton County, South Carolina.
ii. SAMUEL PADGETT.
iii. ELIZABETH PADGETT.
iv. MARY PADGETT.Generation No. 3
Nicholas Tyner and Elizabeth Dew were living in the Chowan District at the time of Dempsey Tyner's birth. Also, Elizabeth Dew had a sister named Sarah. Sarah's husband was named Dempsey Barnes. Maybe Dempsey Tyner was named after Dempsey Barnes?
See: http://tyner.simplenet.com/tyner/tyner2.htm
"Land Grants (1784-1788) in Abbeville County," a collection of clippings from an unknown newspaper located in the Memphis TN Public Library and donated by Rev. E. M. Sharpe:
see Vol II, page 10 from series of two volumes in Abbeville Judge of Probate Office:
"William Wardlaw as a citizen 250 Acres of land situate below the line on Parks Creek Waters of Savannah River [Little River?] Bounding so. on Harris Tyner line, N. on Widow Miller's line the other sides on vacant land when surveyed by John Martin D. S. on the 18th of Sept. last.
Recorded this 21st day of July 1785. R. Anderson C.L."
12. i. BENJAMIN TYNER, b. Abt. 1743, Wayne County, North Carolina, USA; d. Aft. 1833, Robeson County, North Carolina, USA.
ii. WILLIAM TYNER, b. Abt. 1745.
iii. JAMES ALAN TYNER, b. Abt. 1747.
13. iv. NICHOLAS TYNER, b. August 10, 1752, NorthHampton, North Carolina.
Wm. Tyners Will
In the name of God amen. I William Tyner of the County of Noampton in the province of North Carolina being of perfect mind and menory thanks given to Almighty God for the came calling to mind the mortality that attend my body & it is appointed for all men once to die do make and ordain and constitute this to be my last will and testament in manner & form following viz. First of all I summon my sons into the hands of Almighty God that gave it hoping through the merits do other & sessions of my saviour Jesus Christ to have full and free pardon and ____of my sins and my body I commit to the Earth to be buried decent and Christian like manner at the disaction of my executors hereafter named & as to such worldly estate as it hath pleased Almighty God to grant upon me I do give and bequeath in a manner and form following vis.
Item. First of all my will and desire and that all my debts and funeral charges shall be paid and discharged.
Item. I give and bequeath unto Essa Tyner four shillings cash money.
Item. I give unto my daughter Martha Carter four shillings money.
Item. I give unto my son John Tyner five shillings Virginia money.
Item. I give unto my daughter Elizabeth Davis five shillings Virginia money.
Item. I give unto my beloved wife Elizbeth Tyner the third tract of still also the third of my negro fellow named Nero also the third of my land. Also the third of all the rest of my estte during her widowhood and if she should marry then to have but a childs tract, and after my wife decease or in case she should marry, I then give unto my son Due Tyner my Negro named Niass and if my wife should marry, I then give unto my daughters Sarah Tyner, Justine Tyner and Milla Tyner my still.
Item. I give unto my three sons to wit Arthur Tyner, Wm. Tyner, and Due Tyner that tract of land called the Trinawood containing six hundred forty acres more or less, to be equally divided among my three sons Arthur, William and Due the upper forty called the Brush Pond, to Arthur Tyner the lower forty called Sterlins Oldfield, to Wm. Tyner another joining tract to the land I now live on called Bittles to Due Tyner and if either of my said sons Arthur, Wm., or Due should die without issue the said tract of land to be equally divided between the other two and likewise if two should die without issue one to have the hole and if they all should die without issue, I leave the said tract of land to be equaly divided between my four daughters to wit Mary Tyner, Sarah Tyner, Justine Tyner and Milly Tyner and if either of them should die without issue to be equally divided among the rest of my said daughters here mentioned and all the rest of my estate to be equally divided amongst the rest of my children to wit Wm. Tyner, Mary Tyner, Arthur Tyner, Nicholas Tyner, Due Tyner, Sarah Tymer, Presly Tyner, Milla Tyner, and my will and desire is that Arthur Williams, Jesse Williams and Joel Sheard should divide up my estate amongst my children according to my will.
Item. I do hereby constitute and appoint my friend William Sheard and Richd Figunes and John Tyner full and hole and sole executors of my last will and testament.
Item. I do hereby make disavowal and void all other wills and testaments by me heretofore made and acknowledged this to be my last. Witness whereof I have here unto set my hand and seal this 28th day of Dec. 1778
William Tyner (Seal)
Signed, Sealed and Delivered in the presence of us
William Carter
Benj. Morrell
Mary Tyner
The preceding will of Wm. Tyner was exhibited in court proved by the oath of William Carter, Benj. Morrel, Mary Tyner of the subscribing witnesses thereto ordered to be certified and recorded.
Test. Joseph Atherton. Clk.
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Subject: [TYNER] William Tyner/Dempsey Tyner
I am confused (what's new about that!). Perhaps a Tyner researcher can straighten me out.
.....In my research Dempsey Tyner b. 4 Aug 1755 d. 13 Oct 1842 is the son of Nicholas Tyner whose mother would be Elizabeth Dew. (That is, Dempsey's mother was Elizabeth Dew).
.....There is a reference to an Elizabeth as the wife of William Tyner (in his Last Will and Testament) This William being the brother of Nicholas and the uncle of Dempsey Tyner. A researcher has asserted that this Elizabeth is the same Elizabeth Dew.
.....My question is this. Is Elizabeth, wife of William Tyner just an Elizabeth (lineage unknown) or is she indeed a Dew and if she is a Dew and is it possible she is the same Elizabeth Dew that was married to Nicholas Tyner the father of Dempsey Tyner?
.....I know someone has the answer. The William Dew will, is quite clear, that his wife was an Elizabeth but of course there is no last name listed in the will. William also lists his children and there is no mention of Dempsey Tyner so it would seem he is is not a son to William.
.....Thanks for any help.
Jerry Cranford
i. ARTHUR TYNER, d. Abt. December 23, 1781, NorthHampton County, North Carolina.
Notes for ARTHUR TYNER:
Is this him?
http://members.fortunecity.com/mcbride_clan/war1812.htm
Muster rolls for NC militia in War of 1812
THIRD REGIMENT
THIRD COMPANY
DETACHED FROM THE NORTHAMPTON REGIMENT
JAS. C. HARRISON CAPTAIN
STERLING MILTON LIEUTENANT
WHITMEL RULLAND ENSIGN
Arthur Tyner
James W. Davis
In the name of God Amen, I Arthur Tyner of Northampton County in the province of North Carolina being of perfect mind and memory thanks be to God for it Do make, constitute and ordain this to be my last will and testament in manner and form following viz.
Item. First of all my will and desire is that all my debts and furneral charges shall be paid and discharged.
Item. I give unto my mother Elizabeth Tyner two hundred acres of land at the place called Brushie Pond during her natural life.
Item. I give unto my brother Nicholas Tyner forty five head of hogs, one cow and yearling, one jacket___, and two yards of broadcloth, two aces and one hoe, five dollars in small silver, one linen shirt, one pair of shoes, four ___one gallon and half of Brandy, note of hand of Benj. Futrell and one note of hand of David Johnston, and two ___ ____.
Item. I give unto my brother Drew Tyner one sow and pig, one young horse, one saddle and bridle, one grubing hoe, two axes and one weeding hoe, one___ & two jars of brushes, and one________.
Item. I give unto my mother Elizabeth one silver dollar, sixteen ____, one ewe and one lamb.
Item. I give unto my sister Prisilla Tyner one black silk handkerchief, one ewe and one silver dollar.
Item. I give unto my sister Sarah Tymer one lamb, and one linnen band.
Item. I give unto my sister Millis one feather bed and furniture.
Item. I give unto my brother Drew Tyner one riding coat and ten barrels of corn.
Item. I give unto my brother Nicholas Tyner fifteen barrels of corn, all the remainder of my corn at the place called Brushie Pond to be equally divided among the two Blade stacks to Nicholas at the same place, two to Drew Tyner at the same place, I give also to Drew Tyner six hogs.
Item. I give unto my mother Elizabeth Tymer sixteen ____ hogs, and all the rest of my estate I leave to be equally divided between my mother, brothers and sisters except John Tyner and Jefferson Tyner and I hereby constitute and appoint my brother Nicholas Tymer, william Sherwood full and wholesale executors of my last will and testament. I do hereby make disavowal and void all other wills and testaments by me heretofore made and acknowledge this to be my last. In witness whereunto I hae herein unto set my hand this 23rd of December in the year of our Lord 1781.
his
Arthur X Tyner & Seal
mark
Signed sealed and delivered in the presence of
James Davis
William Carter
Test. Joseph Atherton CC
ii. DEW TYNER, d. Abt. 1823, Northhampton County, North Carolina.
Notes for DEW TYNER:
In the name of God, Amen. I, Dew Tyner of the County of Northampton and State of North Carolina being in a debilitated state of body but in perfect sound sense and disposing memory, do make and ordain this my last will and Testament in manner and form following (Neiz??)
.....First, I commit my body to the Earth from when it came to be buried after my death in a Christian-like manner at the discretion of my Executor hereafter to be named, and as to what worldly Estate it has pleased God to bless me with, I give and dispose it in the following manner
.....Item 2d. I give and bequeath to my nephew Arthur Tyner my two Negro boys Tom and Abram to him and his Heirs forever.
.....Item 3d. It is my will and desire that after my decese my Negro Woman Jemima have the use of my bay mare, one spinning wheel, one Iron pot, all my corn and fodder, all my meat which I have in possession, at my death, and the pork which my brother Nicholas Tyner bought for me and which he has now in possession, all my Hogs, my feather bed and furniture, and the balance of my Household and Kitchen furniture and after her decease said property (except the corn fodder and meat) be equally divided between my brother Nicholas Tyner and nephew Arthur Tyner at their own discretion.
.....Item 4th. I give and bequeath unto my brother Nicholas Tyner my grey mare (which old Moses has now in possession) to him and his Heirs forever----
.....Item 5th. It is my will and desire that from and after my decease my Negro Woman Jemima Have the use of my plantation together with all my farming utensils and after her death that said plantation and farming utensils be the property of my Nephew Arthur tyner, his Heirs, etc.
.....Item 6th. In case that my Negro Woman Jemima has any increase from and after this date then it is my will and desire that such increase be the property of my Nephew Arthur Tyner and his Heirs forever.
.....Item 7th. I give and bequeath unto my brother Nicholas Tyner my Gun, my Dish plates and spoon-moulds to him and his Heirs forever.
.....Item 8th. I give and bequeath to my brother Nicholas Tyner and nephew Arthur Tyner all my Bee Hives at Dorcas Barnes' to be equally divided between them, at their own discretion, to them and their Heirs forever.
....Item 9th. In case that any just debts should come against me after my decease then in that case all the property, papers, etc. not named in the foregoing will be appropriated for the settlement thereof and often said satisfaction then I give the balance to my negro woman Jemima to be paid to her by my Executor.
.....Item 10th. I constitute and appoint my Nephew Arthur Tyner Guardian to my Negro woman Jemima during her natural life and also constitute and appoint him, said Arthur Tyner my whole and sole Executor to this my last Will and Testament revoking all former Wills Heretofore made by me and declaring this to be my last Will, etc.
.....In Witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal this 20th day of January 1823.
Dew Tyner, his mark
Signed, sealed and pronounced in presence of Jas. H. Lowerly and Mary Watson (her mark)
Teste James C. Harrison, ???
iii. EISA TYNER.
iv. JOHN TYNER.
v. JUSTINE TYNER.
vi. MARTHA TYNER, m. WILLIAM CARTER.
vii. MARY TYNER.
viii. MILDRED TYNER.
ix. PRISCILLA TYNER.
x. SARAH TYNER.
14. xi. ELIZABETH TYNER, b. Abt. 1760, Northampton County, North Carolina; d. Aft. 1832.
15. xii. NICHOLAS TYNER.
http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/NCROOTS/1999-06/0928807476From:
Subject: [NCROOTS-L] Corbet/Corbett/Corbit/Corbitt
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999
Hello North Carolina Researchers,
....I have posted this information before and am hoping that someone new to the list will recognize this information as part of their heritage also. For those of you who have read this before I apologize, but us Corbitt's tend to be just a tad stubborn.
…..I am trying to locate anyone who can fill me in on our branch of the Corbitt's that moved from Isle of Wight County, Va. to North Carolina in the early 1700's. Thus far I have the following information.
…1726 - Francis Corbitt bought land in Bertie Co., NC
…1739 - Johnson Corbitt sold land in Bertie Co. NC that Francis had bought in 1726
…1748 - William Corbitt bought land in Northampton Co., NC {220 acres}
…1755 - William Corbitt of Northampton Co. NC sold 100 acres in Isle of Wight Co., Va
…1757 - Johnson Corbitt bought land in Northampton Co., NC
....William Corbitt married Ann Tyner (Tynes) according to Isle of Wight Co., Va. Records. She was the daughter of Nicholas Tyner who died 1753 and wife Elizabeth. William later moved to Northampton Co., NC where he had bought land in 1748. They had the following children {that we know of} Josiah, Richard, Meredith.
....In searching the early census for North Carolina, I have found numerous entries for the surnames Corbit/Corbitt/ Corbet/Corbett, all variations of the Corbitt surname.
....Can anyone out there shed some light on our branch of the Corbitt's that moved to NC. We know that they are connected to our Corbitt's of Isle of Wight and Southampton Counties in Virginia, because we know that this branch of our line did migrate to North Carolina. We suspect they are siblings to our Samuel Corbitt Sr. who died and his will was probated in 1789, we just need the proof.
....H E L P us connect our missing ancestors.
Thank you
Pat Corbitt Johns
16. i. JOHN CORBITT, b. Abt. 1745, Edgecombe County, North Carolina; d. Abt. 1807, Edgecombe County, North Carolina.
Oct 1741 HARRIS TYNER on jury list. Chowan Co, NC P&QS 1730-45,_
John Harris Tyner, legatee of John Harris, gave in 1759 by deed of gift to his son John Tyner the 235 or 245 acres he owned in Chowan County. By this time his family were in Johnston County. John Tyner sold off the remainder of this Chowan land in 1764. In 1767 Haris Tyner Sr. was referred to in Johnston Court Minutes as an "aged person," incapable of business. He must have died soon after this. Richard disappeared from Johnston records then, and Harris was in South Carolina by 1770. John remained in Johston and left a will there in 1780, naming children Jesse and John Tyner and Millie Hood. Jessee Tyner left a will in Johston County in 1818.
Johnston Co, NC Minutes Bk--, p22."
17. i. JOHN TYNER, b. Bet. 1735 - 1738; d. November 15, 1780, Smithville, Johnston County, North Carolina.
18. ii. RICHARD TYNER, b. Bet. 1735 - 1740, South Carolina, USA; d. November 10, 1824, Elbert County, Georgia, USA.
19. iii. HARRIS TYNER, b. August 04, 1740, Lancaster, South Carolina; d. Abt. 1778.
iv. CALEB TYNER, b. Abt. 1744, Abbeville District, South Carolina.
Notes for CALEB TYNER:
Edgefield County, South Carolina: Deed Books 27,28 and 29 - Abstracted by Carol Wells - Heritage Books, Inc.
Book 28 - p. 147 Phinehas Sutton to Stephen Frederick, Deed, 26 March 1804, Twenty Dollars, fifteen acres situate on B__ (word blotted)Mills Creek of South Edisto River . . .
Wit: Calep Tyner, . . .
Rec 8 May 1807.
20. v. WILLIAM TYNER.
William Tyner bought land in Bertie County, North Carolina in 1748. Records show that the Will of William Tyner Sr, was probated 14 October 1760 Bertie County, North Carolina. He had a son William Tyner JR. who was exec. A deed to his property stated that William Jr. was an only son.
Pp 259 Pratt, William Box 76 Pack 1865
Est. Admnr Mar. 28, 1797. WM TYNER as one of the Witnesses
Est. Admnr June 9, 1795 by Anne Wilson, widow. WM TYNER listed as a buyer.
21. i. WILLIAM TYNER, b. Abt. 1735; d. Abt. 1778.
i. JOHN ROBERSON.
William Padget, Sr. was born in Chowan County, North Carolina, on Rocky Hock Creek at their plantation. This location can still be found on present-day North Carolina maps, north of Edenton. Before 1740, William married Sarah Blitchenden whose brothers came with them to South Carolina. The Blitchenden family was from Perquimans County, North Carolina. They also owned a plantation. William and Sarah came to Colleton County, South Carolina before 1768 with their seven sons. William Padget lived in St. Bartholomew Parish of Colleton County, S.C. and died there in 1768 leaving his will dated 1768 and proved Nov. 20, 1768 which was witnessed by his wife's Blitchenden relatives. He named only three sons in this will: Elijah (his administrator), William and Samuel, the last two being "cut out" of his will. His children were most likely born in North Carolina. Elijah inherited his father's plantation which he sold and moved his family to Edgefield County before 1780. William, Jr., Joel, and Jacob stayed in this area while the others departed. Samuel died in Winston County, South Carolina, while the other three lived in Edgefield County before Elijah departed for Georgia for the new land of Georgia land lottery. Elijah died there, and many of his descendants still live in Georgia, though some moved to Florida. Job and Josiah lived near each other as indicated on the 1790 South Carolina census and must have attended the Clouds Creek Baptist Church.
• PROP: 1737 Chowan Co., NC; deed, William Padget to Luke White
• Will: 20 November 1768 Colleton Co., S.C.
Elijah died there and many of his descendants still live in Georgia though some moved to Florida. Job and Josiah lived near each other as indicated on the 1790 SC census and must have attended the Clouds Creek Baptist Church
i. WILLIAM PADGETT, b. 1740.
22. ii. SAMUEL PADGETT, b. 1741.
23. iii. ELIJAH PADGETT, b. 1742, North Carolina; d. Abt. 1807, Louisville, Jefferson County, Georgia.
24. iv. JOSIAH PADGETT, b. 1750, North Carolina; d. Abt. December 1811, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
25. v. JOB PADGETT, b. Abt. 1750, North Carolina; d. January 1837, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
26. vi. JOEL PADGETT, b. 1751, North Carolina; d. Abt. 1830, Colleton County, South Carolina.
vii. JACOB PADGETT, b. 1756.Generation No. 4
Benjamin is listed on the Johnston County Tax List for 1784.
The 1810 Census of Robeson list Benjamin as being over 45 yrs., and his wife as over 45 yrs. One son is listed as being between 16-25.
Served in Rev. War see page 454 Roster of NC Soldiers, published by NC DAR in 1932. Pension started 4 Mar. 1831.
Revolutionary War Pension Application No. S7722.
North Carolina USGenWeb Archieve - Military - Pension Rolls
Benjamin Tyner
Robeson County
Private Cavalry and Infantry
North Carolina Miliita
$32.50 Annual Allowance
$97.50 Amount Received June 25, 1833 Pension Started
Age 91
Direct Descendants of Nicholas Tyner
Carl Joe Tyner > Carl Vann Tyner > Lewis Edward Tyner > William Tyner > Benjamin Tyner, Jr. > Benjamin Tyner, Sr. > Nicholas Tyner > Nicholas Tyner > Nicholas Tyner > ???
.....Affidavit Robison Co, NC. 2/26/1833. Aged about 90 yrs old. Entered service when about 30 years old for about 6 months when he resided in Wayne Co, NC. Served under Col. Sowell. Went home then enlisted again under Capt Joseph Boon, lighthorseman in light dragoons in Wayne Co.
.....Affidavit from Jacob Thompson and Wm Townsend are acquainted with Benjamin Tyner.
.....Questions to Benjamin: 90 years old. LIving in Wayne Co NC. For about 7 years Lived in the counties of Montgomery and Richmond and lived in Robison Co for 28 years. Didn't serve in regular army or under regular officers.
.....Affidavit by John Wooddill, knew him as a boy, they lived within 3 miles of each other, Tyner in Wayne co and he in Johnson County, both near the dividing line.
27. i. ARTHUR PEARCE TYNER, b. 1760, Johnson County, North Carolina, USA; d. February 27, 1845.
28. ii. FRANCES TYNER, b. Abt. 1768, South Carolina; d. July 15, 1853, DeWitt County, Texas.
29. iii. BENJAMIN J. TYNER, b. Abt. 1790, Johnson County, North Carolina, USA; d. Abt. 1883, Robeson County, North Carolina, USA.
In 1770 Nicholas Tyner deeds to Benjamin, his son, land in Johnson County. Nicholas states he is from Dobbs County. Dobbs created from Johnston but discontinued in 1791. 1769 tax list of Dobbs lists Nicholas, Jr., John, William and James.
Affidavit 9/1832
.....Born 8/18/1752 in Northampton Co, NC. Enlisted 5/14/1776 under William Barrett for 3 years. He again entered the service in a few weeks, as a substitute for one John Tyner for 12 months. He continued service as a substitute for several persons, to wit Ransome Savage, 6 months, Benjamin Prapler?, 6 months. Served a total of 6 years.
.....Secretary of State affidavit states Nicholas Tyner was a corpral in Capt Taylor Co and in service 1/1779 having enlisted for 2 1/2 years the date of discharge was 4/1779, date of enlistment not on rolls. #707 warrant for 35 months service.
.....A neighbor's affidate states the he is a neighbor of mine, wealthy, respectable and I truly believe served as he states. Jno Wheeler. 8/8/1835
State of North Carolina
Hertford County
Personally appeared before me Samuel WELLS one of the Justices of the Peace for the County aforesaid, Nicholas TYNER? who maketh Oath on the Holy Evangilist of Almighty God, that in the year 1776 or 1777 George ROCHEL and Stokes ROCHEL inlisted in the North Carolian Continental service that Captain Nicholas EDMUNDS inlisted them for three years, and that this Deponant was then a Soldier and in the same company commanded by Capt. Nicholas EDMUNDS in the third Regiment with both the aforesaid ROCHELS, and that George ROCHEL died in South Carolina in the service of the United States, and Stokes ROCHEL died in North Carolina in the service of the United States, and further this Deponent saith not.
Signed, Nicholas TYNER?
Sworn to before me
This 4th Dec. 1806
Sam’l. WELLS, J.P.
N.C. General Assembly Session Records: 1806
Petitions of Rev. War, Box 2
Note:
Stokes ROCHEL & George ROCHEL were son of William ROCHELLE & Laurel STOKES of Albermarle Parish District of Virginia.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncrichmo/1841pensioners.html
Northhampton County, North Carolina
Nicholas Tyner, 90
i. BENJAMIN TYNER.
30. ii. ELIZABETH DEW TYNER, b. May 08, 1798, Northhampton County, North Carolina, USA; d. April 01, 1873, Fayette County, Tennessee, USA.
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/5085/descntyner.htm
i. ENOS DAVIS.
31. ii. JOHN DAVIS, b. Abt. 1779, Northampton County, North Carolina; d. March 22, 1852, Northampton County, North Carolina.
iii. LEWIS DAVIS, b. Abt. 1781, Northampton County, North Carolina; m. MARTHA DELOATCH.
iv. JONATHAN DAVIS, b. Abt. 1783.
v. EDWARD DAVIS, b. Abt. 1784.
32. vi. JOSHUA DAVIS, b. Abt. 1785, Northampton County, North Carolina.
vii. ENOCH DAVIS, b. Abt. 1786, Northampton County, North Carolina; d. Abt. 1853, Northampton County, North Carolina.
viii. SAMUEL DAVIS, b. Abt. 1788, Northampton County, North Carolina.
ix. DOLLY DAVIS, b. Abt. 1789, Northampton County, North Carolina; m. NATHANIEL SMITH.
x. ELIZABETH DAVIS, b. Abt. 1790, Northampton County, North Carolina; m. WILLIAM PARKER, January 25, 1817, Northampton County, North Carolina.
xi. MARY DAVIS, b. Abt. 1793.
33. xii. RHODA DAVIS, b. Abt. 1798, Northampton County, North Carolina.
xiii. WILLIAM DAVIS, b. Abt. 1798.
34. xiv. ARTHUR DAVIS, b. August 03, 1799, Northampton County, North Carolina; d. Abt. 1879, Northampton County, North Carolina.
35. xv. LUCY DAVIS, b. Abt. 1800, Northampton County, North Carolina.
xvi. SARAH DAVIS, b. Abt. 1802.
xvii. SUZY DAVIS, b. Abt. 1803.
pages 296-7
Capt. Thos. D. Boone, the intelligent and capable Clerk of our Superior Court, is one of the heroes of 1861-'65. We have before written of this worthy man and his charming wife, Willie Vann, daughter of Tilman D. Vann, of Maney's Neck. Captain Boone's father was William Boone, of Northampton, and his wife, Judith Boone, nee Deanes, the daughter of the old Sheriff, Thomas Deanes, of Hertford. His grandmother on his paternal side was Lucy Tyner, of Nicholas Tyner II, of Northampton. Sheriff Thomas Deanes' daughter Susan married Rev. Reuben Jones, and his daughter Malissa Anne married John E. Maget, of Northampton. The old Sheriff was married twice. By his first marriage he reared two sons, Mike and Thomas Deanes, Jr. The mother of his daughters was Susan Perry, a daughter of Capt. Abner Perry, of revolutionary fame, and who died in 1810.
THE Colonial and State Political History
of Hertford County, N. C. BY BENJ. B. WINBORNE.
MURFREESBORO. N. C.
Colonial and state political history of Hertford County, N. C
pages 266-267
the father of William Boone and the mother of Judge Faircloth, were half brother and sister. Dr. Freeman's son, George, married Carrie Hart, of Emporia, Va., the granddaughter of Dred Hart, of Southampton County, Va., who married a Suitor, of Northampton. Mrs. Dr. Freeman's paternal grandmother was Lucy Tyner, daughter of Nicholas Tyner, Jr., of Northampton County, by his first marriage. We cannot ascertain his wife's maiden name, but we learn from O'Dwyer's diary of 1824 that Nicholas Tyner's wife died September 29, 1824. Mr. Tyner was the son of William Tyner and grandson of Nicholas Tyner, Sr., of Dobbs County, who took out a patent for a large tract of land on the Meherrin
River, from the Lords Proprietors in 1724. He conveyed 640 acres of this land January 12, 1761, to his son, William Tyner, of Northampton County. William Tyner's other children were Drew, Mary, Sarah, Priscilla, Mildred, Arthur, and William. Lucy Tyner's sister, Lucretia, married Etheldred Peebles, an ancestor of Judge R. B. Peebles. O'Dwyer also tells that in September, 1824, Turner Peebles' daughter
married a Stancell.
in the State.
He was one of the County Commissioners for several years and later served the county as her Register of Deeds, an office which he resigned in 1905.
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page 36
SOME INTERESTING FACTS.
During the colonial times, the Assembly, selected a list of persons, in each county, qualified for jury service, and only freeholders were selected. In 1740 the following persons were selected for Bertie, some of whom were cut off in 1759 into Hertford, and became ancestors of many of our citizens, viz.: Thomas Jenkins, John Worrell, Benj. Hill, Daniel Dickinson, Edw. Harrell, Abner Harrell, William
Hines, Thomas Barfield, John Taylor, Nich. Tyner, Jr., John Brown, Samuel Harrell, Patrick Carter, Isaac Parker, Edw. Harrell, Jr., William Barfield, John Bird, Edward Bird, William Rosberry, William Jordan, William Boon, James Rutland, Sr., Peter West, Thomas Hayes, James Barfield, Benj. Wynne, Richard Barfield, Thomas Banks, John Griffin, John Beverly, Henry Jones, James Maney, Joseph Bridgers,
Nathan Joyner, John Vanpelt, Daniel Vanpelt, Robert Lawrence, James Jones, Benj. Bridges, William Whitley, James Dukes, Josiah Liverman, David Legatt, John Harrell, Sr., and John Harrell, Jr. In Chowan County there were on the jury list of same date, John Vann, William Vann, Edw. Hare, Moses
Hare, Henry Baker, and Michael Slaughter. The last four became citizens of Hertford County. Most of these names are familiar names in Hertford County to-day.
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page 106-107
HERTFORD'S LIST.
NORTHAMPTON COUNTY.
Capt. James C. Harrison, Stephen Winborne, Lemuel Winborne, Winborne Futrell, David Boone, William Boone, Arthur Tyner, Micajah Futrell, Lemuel Vaughan, Goodwin Daniel, James Vaughan, Benj. Vaughan, Nehemiah Vinson, Jiles Lewter, Benj. Griffin, Gilbert Griffin, James Griffin, Brittain Lassiter, John Jenkins, Benj. Jenkins, Benj. Lawrence, Nathan Pope, Samuel Warren, Edwin Liles.
i. LUCINDA TYNER.
36. ii. LUCRETIA TYNER.
37. i. WILLIAM CORBITT, b. Abt. 1754, North Carolina; d. Abt. 1810, Davidson County, Tennessee.
38. ii. MEREDITH CORBITT, b. Abt. 1765, North Carolina; d. Abt. 1830.
EMAIL FROM TYNER MAILING LIST:
Dennis,
My own belief is that this guy was just John Tyner, not John Harris Tyner Jr. and that he, Richard Tyner of GA and Harris Tyner of SC were the sons of John Harris Tyner of Chowan and Dobbs/Johnston Cos. John Tyner was probably the eldest since he sold the land in Chowan left to his father in the will of John Harris (1711) and remained in Johnston after John Harris Tyner's death (ca 1765? I can't lay my hand on it but there was a 1760's Johnston Co. court entry exempting Harris Tyner from taxes because of his infirmity.) and Richard and Harris moved on to SC and GA.
Bob [Bob Erwin]
John Hoskins.
Consideration 15 pounds - 100 acres being part of a grant to John Tiner 12/23/1763
page 790 Dated 11/15/1780: names sons Jesse and John Tyner. Son Jesse- Tract of land where I now live; one other tract of land; all my personal estate
Son John- 1 hard Spanish Dollar
Millie Hood- household furnishings; 1 wheel; cotton & flax (what follows is a list of household goods)
Eliza and Jesse, Polly, John and Beulah Farron.
39. i. JESSE TYNER, b. Bet. 1755 - 1762, Cape Hatteras, Currituck County, North Carolina; d. May 26, 1818, Johnston County, North Carolina, USA.
ii. JOHN TYNER.
iii. MILLIE TYNER, m. ? HOOD.
Was this man even a son of John Harris Tyner? Read this:
Richard Tyner of Elbert County, GA?
From: Ken Tyner (toprem at wildblue.net)
Sent: Sat 3/21/09 3:18 PM
Jane, your web site; http://littlecalamity.tripod.com:80/Genealogy/Tyner.html. has recently been quoted to me as the source for a Richard Tyner and Harris family connection, and while I can understand how some folks might draw those conclusions, there is no documentary evidence to my knowledge comfirming such an assertion, and more recently while our Tyner dna project has confirmed that there is a Tyner Harris connection through the Demspsey Tyner line, however the Richard Tyner family descendents from Kentucky and from Georgia DNA results indicate no genetic family connection to any Harris DNA participants, therefore the John Harris Tyner and Richard Tyner of Elbert County connection must be incorrect. That does not mean that Richard Tyner was not somehow related to Sarah Tyner and may have been a Nicholas descendent, however I know you will do the correct thing and adjust your records accordingly.
Best Regards,
Ken Tyner descendent of Richard Tyner
I'm leaving the line up on the website for descendants, but be warned, guys...
Lewis A. Wood, 215 Le Grand Blvd., Greenville, S. C. 29607, Phone: 864-233-5031
THE OFFICIAL HISTORY of ELBERT COUNTY GEORGIA
1790 - 1935
By JOHN H. McINTOSH
.....Living in that section of Elbert County now known as Gaines was the Richard TYNER family.
.....Early one morning in the late fall, Richard TYNER left his home on a hunting expedition, leaving his wife, two sons, the younger bearing the name Noah, { the elder, Harris, was Mrs. Mollie Tyner Page's great great grandfather}, three daughters - Mary, Tamar, and an infant whose name is lost to us.
.....A few hours after his departure a band of hostile Cherokees [Cherokee marked out by LAW and Creek put in] made an attack upon the house and although the mother and older children fought fearlessly with an old musket left for defense, they were soon overpowered, but not until two Indians had been slain and a third severely wounded. Mrs. TYNER and her infant daughter were slain and scalped. Little Noah secreted himself in a hollow tree and thus evaded capture.
.....The son {Harris} escaped by flight and the two daughters, both in their teens, were made captives and carried away. As soon as the alarm was spread the stern pioneers formed a posse, but after days of fruitless pursuit they were forced to abandon the chase. The family and friends gave the girls up for lost, for few captives ever returned when taken by the hostile Indians of that period.
.....About three years later, the attention of one John Monack, an Indian trader, was attracted to two beautiful girls and he quickly recognized that they were not of Indian blood. He knew of the abduction of the TYNER girls and realized that he had located them. Monack after much bargaining reached an agreement whereby he was able to purchase Mary, but by no means of persuasion could he induce the Indians to part with Tamar. The Indians calmly stated that she was quick to obey, of good disposition, tireless in work, and hence necessary to them.
.....Finally, realizing that his efforts were of no avail, he and Mary set out for Elbert County and shortly afterwards were married. Neither Mary nor her husband were fully content for the knowledge that Tamar still remained a captive haunted them continuously.
.....In a few weeks Monack again set out for the Indian towns with the determination to either purchase or abduct his sister-in-law. Upon reaching his destination he alternately begged and threatened, but once again to no avail. His every movement was spied upon and he was finally forced to return home, frankly admitting defeat. A few days after his departure from the village the Indians seemed very suspicious of Tamar and she was informed by an old squaw, whom she had befriended, that the headmen believed that she was soon to be rescued by a body of troops and rather than give her up they were to burn her at the stake on the next ceremonial day. Tamar prevailed upon the squaw to furnish her a canoe and provisions. One night, with the aid of her faithful Indian friend, she successfully made her escape. Down the turbid waters of the Chattahoochee she paddled. All night she would make the best time possible and during the day would hide along the river bank, sleeping no more than was absolutely necessary. Several times she barely escaped capture, but finally with all her provisions exhausted, she reached the waters of Appalachicala Bay where she was sighted by a passing merchantman and conveyed in safety to Savannah. The good people of that city upon hearing her strange story, received her as a heroine, as indeed she was, and furnished her with the necessary means of travel to Elbert County. The news of her coming preceded her and she was welcomed at Petersburg with great rejoicing.
.....A short time after her arrival home she was married to a gentleman by the name of Hunt. Today many of her descendants reside in Elbert and Hart Counties. She lived to be quite an old lady and thrilled her numerous grandchildren with tales of the Indian towns. It is said that she delighted to point out the hollow tree in which her younger brother Noah had hidden. This tree, which stood for many decades, was known throughout the whole countryside as " Noah's Ark"
.....Shortly after the TYNER incident a band of roving Cherokees made an attack upon the inhabitants a short distance above the spot where Edinburg once stood and several persons were scalped and murdered. A beautiful 14 year old girl, whose name has long since been forgotten, was spared in the massacre and taken captive. William Suttles, a gunsmith and lay preacher of Edinburg, heard of the raid and determined to rescue the child. Arming himself with an excellent rifle he at once set out alone on his dangerous mission. About midnight he came in sight of the Indian camp fire. In true frontier fashion he made his way to within 30 yards of the encampment and saw the terror stricken little girl being forcibly held upon the lap of a stalwart brave. In a few moments this brave arose and began talking in a loud voice with the accompaniment of many gestures. Suttles from his ambush, raised his rifle and, with coolest deliberation, shot the gesturing brave through the body. Instantly the entire camp was in turmoil, in consequence no doubt, of what they supposed to be a surprise attack by a large force of angry and determined whites. The child, with rare presence of mind, rushed to the spot from which the gun had been fired and Suttles taking her in his arms ran to the place where his horse was concealed and safely carried her to his home.
Note: Richard TYNER was an early settler in what was then Indian Country in northeast Georgia. His son Harris TYNER raised a large family and lived and died in what is now Elbert County, Georgia. Harris's son Tollison TYNER also raised his family in the same area. His son John H. TYNER did likewise and his son Rayford Singleton TYNER raised his family in the same area. Rayford S. TYNER was the father of my wife's[Bobby Nell Page Wood} mother - Mrs. Mollie TYNER Page.
There are some errors in the above account, which is expected when a tradition has been retold a few times. One item I (LAW) would like to correct - The raiding Indians were CREEK, not CHEROKEE. RICHARD TYNER later married a Cherokee Indian, "Sookie" DOUGHTERY".
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From Historical Collections of Georgia. Pg. 440: " In 17__ there lived upon the banks of Coody's Creek, in the flat woods in what is now called Elbert Co., Mr. Richard Tyner, a poor, though respectable man. During his absence one day, a party of savages attacked his house. They immediately killed Mrs. Tyner. They then seized the youngest child, and dashed its brains against a tree. Another child they scalped, and left it for dead. A littleboy, the son of Mr. Tyner, named Noah, amidst the confusion escaped the notice of the Indians, and crept into a hollow tree, which for many years afterwards was known by the name of Noah's Ark. An elder son of Mr. Tyner fled to the Savannah River, and was pursued by some of the Indians, but he effected his escape. Mary and Tamar, the daughters of Mr. Tyner, the Indians carried off to the Coweta towns. There they remained for several years, when an Indian trader named John Manack purchased Mary, who returned with him and became his wife. When he returned to the Indian nation he offered to purchase Tamar, but the Indians refused to sell her. The main employment of Tamar was to bring wood. Upon a certain occasion, an old Indian woman informed her that her captors, uspecting that she was trying to escape, had resolved to burn her alive. The feelings of the poor girl can better be imagined than described. She determined at all risks to escape. The Indian woman supplied her with provisions and a canoe, accompanied with directions how to proceed down the Chattahoochee River. Bidding adieu to her benefactress, Tamar launched her canoe, and commenced her perilous voyage. During the day she secreted herself amidst the thick swamps of the river, and at night pursued her course. She finally reached Applachicola Bay, embarked on board of a vessel, and arrived in Savannah. By the assistance of some of the citizens, she was enabled to reach her home in Elbert, where she afterwards married a Mr. Hunt. Many of her descendants are still living, who will vouch for the truth of this story.
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Father thought to be William, brother of John Harris Tyner. Richard was closely associated with the Cherokee Indians and may have been part Indian himself. He may have married three times.
Page 44 - We are indebted to Mr. Parker Smith of Elberton, Ga. for this story of the Indian Massacre of the Tyner family, which was recorded by his father, Dr. Smith.
Cause of the Raid
......As is generally understood, Indians as friends are faithful, but as enemies are relentlessly savage. The Tyners were prominent and high-toned. One of then in an official capacity caused severe punishment to be inflicted on an Indian of a tribe for some reprehensible conduct. This arroused a spirit of revenge. There fore a slaughter of the offending family living on Coldwater Creek was planned. In the abscence of Mr. Tyner, a mob rushed in on the defenseless family, and killed the mother, slashed her babe against a tree, and threw it down on her. It is said by near relatives, that when found, the babe was instictively feeling for its dead mother's breasts.
.....Joshua, being fleet and strong, ran and climbed a tree a few hundred yards from the spring, but was pursued and shot down dead. Noah was a small boy and concealed himself in the hollow of a large tree at the spring pulling the washpot in after him. Therefore, that tree was called "Noah's Ark" as long as it stood. Another son is said to have made his escape by flight. Harris was caught, scalped, and beatened until pronounced dead, but he revived and lived many years afterwards.
.....The three daughters were ordered to march with the departing mob, but one refused to go. She was promptly scalped and buffeted, and left in a supposed dying condition, but she played 'possum' until the Indians were gone, later recovered. Mary and Tamar seeing their sister's fate consented and went, becoming slaves. Tamar was first sent to hoe corn, but feigned ignorance by cutting out the little corn and leaving the grass. She was then required to get firewood and catch fish with Mary.
.....Soon after these events, John Monack, a man who traded with Indians, went to the region and recognized the Tyner girls. Being fascinated with Mary's features of nobility, he bought her and married her. On Monack's next trip to the Indian village he tried to purchase Tamar, but failed.
......After Mary went home Tamar became very despondent, and seeing no prospect of better conditions resolved to desert. While out fishing one night, with some parched corn in her pocket, she got on an improvised raft and floated below the section inhabited by her captors, making her bearings for Elbert County. At first the sparslly settled country was almost a wilderness. As nights approached, she watched for cow trails and listened for bells in order to follow the cows to their homes.
.....On reaching a settlement at last, she was an interesting guest when she related her experiences, and was piloted on her way some miles next morning until she reached denser population.
.....After reaching home Tamer married Moses Hunt of this community. She lived to a great age and extreme febleness. After her death, Jeff and Dinah (slaves) were Moses' special attendents. One day Moses was seated in front of the fire leaning on his head on the end of his staff, while Dinah was out gathering turnip greens for dinner. When she returned, he was lying dead with his head in the fire burned beyond recognition. It was a supposable case of sudden death from natural causes. . .
.....After Monack's death his widow, Mary, married Rev. James Riley, well remembered as Uncle Jimmy Riley. He moved from this community to one in Mississippi, and little is known of him since.
.....Lawrence Adams, son of William Adams, married Nancy Hunt, daughter of Moses and Tamar Hunt. They lived and died at the home of Moses Hunt. James, brother of Lawrence Adams, married Mary A. Hunt, daughter of Moses and Tamar Hunt. James purchased the James (Jimmy) Riley home when he sold and went to Mississippi. Here he and Mary reared their family, and are buried in the family burial ground on the "Rucker Plantation." . . .
.....My children drank water from the Tyner spring when going to school. It was later called the "Dobb's spring." I have seen the walnut tree from which Joshua was shot, the largest I ever saw. It was cut for sawlogs more than forty years ago.
.....I greatly appreciate the kindness of Mr. John M. Craft for information about the early settlers in the Coldwater community. He is in his eighty-seventh year, and remarkably vigorous physically and mentally. He has clear recollection of seeing Mary and Tamar Tyner.
.....This sketch is made from reminiscenses rather than printed history. Where it does not agree, it is open to criticism.-- B. C. Smith
(note: See also History of Hart County, Ga. pg 266 - =93Tamar Escapes . ..)
Pudney and Russell Publishers, New York, 1854, p. 440.
"In 17__, there lived upon the banks of Coody's Creek, is the flat woods, in what is now called Elbert County, Mr. Richard Tyner, a poor, though respectable man. During his absence one day, a party of savages attached his house. They immediately killed Mrs. Tyner. They then seized the youngest child, and dashed out its brains against a tree. Another child they scalped and left it for dead. A little boy, the son of Mr. Tyner, named Noah, amidst the confusion escaped the notice of the Indians and crept into a hollow tree, which for many years afterwards was known by the name of Noah's Ark. An elder son of Mr. Tyner fled to the Savannah River, and was pursued by some of the Indians, but he effected his escape. Mary and Tamar, the daughters of Mr. Tyner, the Indians carried off to the Coweta towns. There they remained for several years, when an Indian trader named John Manack purchased Mary, who returned with him to the county of Elbert and became his wife. When he returned to the Indian nation he offered to purchase Tamar, but the Indians refused to sell her. The main employment of Tamar was to bring wood. Upon a certain occasion, an old Indian woman informed her that her captors, suspecting that she was trying to escape, had resolved to burn her alive. The feelings of the poor girl can be better imagined than described. She determined at all risks to escape. The Indian woman supplied her with provisions and a canoe, accompanied with directions how to proceed down the Chattahoochee River. Bidding adieu to her benefactress, Tamar launched her canoe, and commenced her perilous voyage. During the day she secreted herself amidst the thick swamps of the river, and at night pursued her course. She finally reached Appalachicola Bay, embarked on board of a vessel, and arrived in Savannah. By the assistance of some of the citizens, she was enabled to reach her home in Elbert, where she afterwards married a Mr. Hunt. Many of her descendants are still living, who will vouch for the truth of this story."
"There was an older brother of Harris Tyner, John Jr., whose family were almost destroyed by the Cherokee Indians. In those days, about 1768, Indian depredations were frequent. While John Jr. and his sons were working in the filed, they saw the Indians coming, and as they could not reach the cabin, they secreted themselves in the woods. The family had in measure been warned of the coming of the Indians by Abbey, daughter of John Jr., who in her delirium caused from malaria fever had a presentiment of the Indian attack. For two days she warned her family in her delirium and after the third day the Indians came. The wife and her two baby daughters were taken into captivity. A young son who was caught and scalped escaped to a thicket and survived to tell of the attack, but ever afterwards wore a black skullcap. The wife of the brother of John Jr. was left for dead in her home but recovered, the remainder of her family were killed.
The wife, Abbey and two daughters of John Tuner, Tamar and Susan who were captured, became wives of Indians when grown. The father followed the Indians and finally located them only to find his wife was dead. The daughters, then grown women returned with him to his settlement but were
dissatisfied and later returned to the Indian husbands and homes. Mrs. Tyner had been forced to marry an Indian Chife. She died of a broekn heart. A son was born to them who was the father of Alexander Stephens, Vice President of the Confederacy."
Will of Richard Tyner 13 Sep 1824 Elbert County, GA, Will Book "M" page 338, 339 Elbert County Georgia:
To all whom these presents Shall Come be it known and I hereby declare and Make Known In the name of Almighty God that I Richard Tyner Sr. of the State of Georgia and County of Elbert being Very Sick and weak but in the right use of my reason and Well Knowing that it is appointed for all men to die in order to arrange my affairs as far as in my power lies I make this my last Will and Testament hereby revoking and Setting aside all other Wills that I heretofore may have made first I give my soul to the Almighty author of my existence and recommend that my body be buried in the Christian form by my relations and executors. And as touching my estate wherewith it has pleased god to bless me I give bequeath and demise the same in the following manner
to my daughter Abigail Cridendon one dollar and no more
to my son Richard Tyner Jnr I give and bequeath the land whereon I now live which
contains parts of different Surveys also an equal part with the rest of my children of the part to be divided
to my son Harris Tyner I give and bequeath my best bed and furniture and also equal part with the rest of my children of the property that is to be divided
to my Grand Daughter Nancy Tyner I give and bequeath one of my colts for her to make choice.
My children herein after named that is Samuel Tyner or his heirs Mary Ryley
Tamer Hunt Joshua Tyner Frances McGuire Noah Tyner or his heirs
Elizabeth Boatright Agnes Crump Martha Bird Richard Tyner Harris Tyner
and the Children of Charity Bird is to have an equal part of my negroes________a woman Peter and Daniel men and _______a girl stock of Every Kind with my crop that may be ________ and my furniture not already given. I will and request that the whole of the Same be sold by my executors in they way that their judgements say will be the best for the interest of my children herein after named say Samuel Tyner or his heirs Mary Ryley Tamer Hunt Joshua Tyner Frances McGuire Noah Tyner or his heirs Elizabeth Boatright Agnes Crump Martha Bird Richard Tyner Harris Tyner and the children of Charity Bird and after the payment of my just debts that the proceeds of the property to wit Negroes stocks of every Kind
my crop and the furniture be by my Executors equally divided between my children just above named or their heirs.
I appoint my friends William Baily Isham Fiasby & Thomas A Banks my Executors and having Carefully Considered all the different Counts in this my will I am__________therewith and Confirm the same and in Witness thereof I have here unto set my hand seal this thirteenth day of September 1824 - Signed sealed and acknowledged in presence of us
Lauchlen McClurry Richard (X) Tyner
James Adams His mark
Nancy (X) Tyner
Her mark
Elbert County : Term 1824 Personally appeared in open court James
Adams and being duly sworn saith that he say Richard Tyner sign seal & publish the within instrument as his last will and Testament & that he signed the same as a witness in his presence that the said Lauchlen McCurry & Nancy Tyner sign the same also as witnesses in his presence that he was then of sound & disposing mind sworn to & subscribed this 11 Nov 1824
James Adams Filed John Weston C, C, O, Whereupon it was order to be
Recorded the 10 November 1824 John Weston, C,C,O,
---Old Georgia records list several of "Sookie" Dougherty's offspring as white. Richard Tyner Jr. is listed with his father as an entrant in the 1807 Georgia Land Lottery. That giveaway of land that the state acquired from Creek Indians was restricted to free white males or their widows.
---Marriage records from the early 1800s show the Tyner sons and daughters listed in the pages of "whites" rather than "coloreds."
---And in another lottery in 1827 to parcel out former Cherokee lands - also restricted to whites - three Tyner descendants were eligible.
--Richard Tyner was a slave owner. While some Cherokees owned slaves as time went on, that would have been rare in the late 1700s.
--Richard's son Joshua identified himself as white to census takers in both the 1820 and 1830 Illinois censuses. He later wrote an account of fighting Indians in Georgia as part of the Revolutionary War army.
--A baby born to a Cherokee mother and white father in late 1700s Georgia would have been raised as Indian, according to Indian scholar John Finger, a retired University of Tennessee historian. All of the Tyner children were raised as white.
--Descendants of Richard Tyner and both his wives remained in northeast Georgia rather than being rounded up and sent to Oklahoma in the Indian removal of 1830.
--Two male descendants of Richard Tyner underwent DNA tests which showed that the Tyner line goes back to northern European ancestry with no hint of male Indian blood.
---While these are strong indications that there was no Indian blood in the Tyner family, it is not clear and final proof. But of all the records that make a racial distinction, not a single one says Indian.
40. i. MARY TYNER, b. Bet. 1760 - 1765, Johnson County, North Carolina, USA.
ii. ABIGAIL TYNER, b. Abt. 1763.
41. iii. SAMUEL TYNER, b. Abt. 1763, Johnston County, North Carolina; d. Elbert County, Georgia, USA.
42. iv. TAMAR TYNER, b. Abt. 1767, Georgia; d. Abt. 1840, Georgia, USA.
43. v. JOSHUA E. TYNER, b. July 21, 1767, Wilkes County, Georgia, USA; d. December 26, 1838, Franklin County, Illinois, USA.
44. vi. HARRIS TYNER, b. Abt. 1770, Elbert County, Georgia; d. Abt. 1844, Elbert County, Georgia, USA.
vii. BENSKIN TYNER, b. Abt. 1772; d. Abt. 1779, Elbert County, Georgia.
45. viii. NOAH TYNER, b. Abt. 1774, Wilkes County, Georgia, USA; d. Abt. 1818, Montgomery County, Tennessee, USA.
ix. NANCY TYNER, b. Abt. 1777.
46. x. ELIZABETH TYNER, b. May 1780, Wilkes County, Georgia, USA; d. Aft. 1860, Pickens District, South Carolina, USA.
47. xi. FRANCES TYNER, b. Abt. 1782, Wilkes County, Georgia, USA; d. Aft. 1840, Elbert County, Georgia, USA.
48. xii. ABIGAIL TYNER, b. Abt. 1786, Wilkes County, Georgia; d. Bet. 1856 - 1860, Franklin County, Alabama, USA.
49. xiii. AGNES TYNER, b. Abt. 1788, Wilkes County, Georgia, USA.
50. xiv. RICHARD TYNER, b. Abt. 1788, Elbert County, Georgia, USA; d. Bef. 1850, Georgia, USA.
51. xv. MARTHA B. TYNER, b. Abt. 1792, Elbert County, Georgia, USA; d. Aft. 1850, Dekalb County, Georgia, USA.
52. xvi. CHARITY TYNER, b. Abt. 1794, Elbert County, Georgia, USA; d. Bef. 1824.
At an early age Harris Tyner was appointed captain of a militia in the colony of SC under the British government, which was finally attached to the regular British Army, and he was detained as a British subject. Tradition says he died in the summer of 1778 while serving in the army, either in the Tory/Whig skirmishes or in the Indian wars.
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Jan. 6, 2007 from James Wilkinson:
...Just a little history that you all may know already.
...Kings Mountain Battle field is in South Carolina near North Carolina border West of the Catawba River near the Tyner family home place at start of the Revolution. Several of our Tyners were soldiers in the War, some on English side, notably Capt. Harris Tyner of the Royal British Army who received his
commission from General Cornwallis at Turkey Creek, South Carolina July 20, 1778.
...Source: LOYALISTS IN THE SOUTHERN CAMPAIGN OF THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR, Vol
I, by Murtie June Clark, Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc, 1981
(Captain-Lieutenant Harris Tyner, commissioned by Lord Cornwallis, page 48). Also on page 344, lists him as member (Lieutenant) of the South Carolina Colony Militia prior to Revolution with four or five other Tyners named.
..."Catawba" a Native American people formerly inhabiting territory along the (now named) Catawba River in North/South Carolina and that now located in western South Carolina.
James Wilkinson
tnecjim at earthlink.net
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from Dawn Brown (crickethunter at juno.com)
.....Harris Tyner at an early age was appointed Captain of a militia in the colony of S. Carolina under the British Government, which was finally attached to the regular British Army, and he was detained as a British subject (which gave him much trouble). It was a kind of Whig and Tory (British loyalists) fight and hardly any of the pioneers knew which side they were on and cared less and long family quarrels were then settled by one family member murdering another and then revenged again for these murders. His final fate was never known to his family, but tradition says he was killed in 1778 in the army, but whether by the Whig/Tory struggle, or the Indians, we cannot now ascertain.
.....Another account says he died about 1778 of malaria in the swamps near the mouth of the Savannah River.
.....The exact place of his death is not known, but at the time of the breaking out of the Revolutionary War, the Tyner family live on the Great Pedee River near the line between North and South Carolina.
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Court Records: Johnston Co., NC Court Minutes
TARVER & ROGERS ~ 1759-1766
Transcribed below are records from the Court Minutes of Johnston County, North Carolina.
17 Jan 1764
172--Petit Jury, Drury ROERS, Aron ROGERS, etc. 174--John ROGERS, Math. LOWERY, Isaac, Nathaniel and Daniel HILL, etc. ordered to clear a road from near Harris TYNER's to cross NEWSE at Tim. RICHES' thence to Crabtree at John BELKS ford.
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Enrollment dated Sept 1775. Declaration of Independence July 4, 1775. These guys were signing up as militia members to control Indian problems. Revolution didn't start in South for several years. Even then most folks didn't know which side they were on. Harris Tyner retained as Captain Lieutenant for Brits. Dempsy Tyner, his cousin, was a spy for Americans. John Adair may have been a brother to
Nancy Adair Tyner. Don't know.
Ninety Six District } to wit
We the under writen Subcribers being Deeply afected at this time on account of the present Inovation that of late have tacken place and Still Sem Continioned between Great Briten and the american CoLonies and allso being well Convinsed that great pracation(PRECAUTION) ought to be ussed by Every person in Suporting and mantaning our Rights and priveleges which we are Intitlied to as being free Born acording to knowen laws of nature and nations And furder Being So Siteuated that an Exended tract of land within the limeats of this Provence lays much Exposed to the Executions of an Indan Enemy, Should the present Seeming Ill Disposed person who Wisheth Ill to the Human race and tranquility of the British Impaier, and being fully minded to do Every thing in our powr Consistent with the oblagations that we lay under to our Countrey in general to our Selves as free men and to our Posteraty
that the worald may be fully Satisfyed of our loyal Intension, We propose to Defend our Contrey in her libertys from any Invasion what So Ever one (AND)alloas Redy free volanteers unless when we may be Calld upon Dutty and there we Expect acording to the pay of the other trupse Commitneed and payed by the government
Given under our hands this 12th Day of Septem'r 1775
John Calhoun Demesey Tyner James Moon
John Norwood Samuel Hopkens Moses Liddell
Michael Blaisy
Samuel Miller Junr Lewis Falaw
William Miller Senr Gideon Holms
Samuel (his X mark) Miller Senr Jas. Harrell
John (his X mark) McAvoy Jno. Stevenson
Luther Henderson Alex'r Stevenson
James Henderson Hugh Stevenson
Allan Nagrit Herman Hall
Samuel Black Wm Kowiel
Benjamin Hays Jos. Kowiel
James Brimingham Wm. Wallace
James (his X mark) Miorey Jno. Adair
Jared Liddell Thos. Batey
James Weems Jas. Jones
David Miller Jno. McKadam
Robert Bone Jas. Anderson
Rob't. Black Wm. Wallace
Thomas Turner
William Boys
Thomas Wilson
??? ??? in
Harris Tyner 96 District
James Stevenson
And'w Miller
John Miller
Robert Miller
Stephin Stephons
William Ros
Caleb Tyner
John Johnson
According to grandson Elijah Hackleman, Harris Tyner was "raised on the Pedee River and there married Nancy Adair (an aunt of General Adair, a future Governor of Kentucky) and...most of the relatives have it that they immediately after marriage moved to Abbeville District, South Carolina...."
No evidence has been found linking her to General Adair. Could she be a child or close relative of James Adair, Indian trader and historian?
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L.E. Jones, LOUIS EDWARD JONES (1976), which is LDS film 0928097, item 10, has a William Adair, born 1719 in Co. Antrim, Ireland, who died in Mercer Co. Kentucky. He possibly married Mary Moore, b. 1729. His daughter Mary (born Jan. 9, 1784 in North Carolina, died 7-28-1835 in Fayette Co. IN) married Harris Tyner, another of my ancestors. PROBLEMS: The birthdate is way off date, and the Christian name of the daughter is wrong, but Jones has the death date correct. So how much faith can we put in his identification of the father of Nancy/ Mary?
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Willie Pauline Young, ABSTRACTS OF OLD NINETY-SIX AND ABBEVILLE DISTRICT WILLS & BONDS, reprinted 1969, has:
ADAIR, John (Box 2, Pack 30) estate administered 5 May 1784
ADAIR, William (Box 2, Pack 32) estate administered 5 May 1784.
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Notes from Dawn Brown crickethunter at juno.com
Nancy Adair was a near relative of General John Adair, Governor of Kentucky. General Adair was born in Chester Co., S. C. in 1759. He fought in the Battle of New Orleans, Jan 8, 1815; commanded Kentucky Militia and was a member of Congress from Kentucky. He died in 1840. Sometime after the death of Harris Tyner, Nancy Adair Tyner married Burrel Stevens and her children by him were: Shadrick, Susan, Elial, Ezekiel, and Betsa. Elial and Ezekiel moved to Indiana, but the others stayed in Carolina and Georgia. Elial died in Wabash County, Indiana.
53. i. RICHARD TYNER, b. August 04, 1770, Abbeville District, South Carolina; d. January 01, 1836, Shelbyville, Shelby County, Indiana, USA.
54. ii. WILLIAM JASPER TYNER, b. April 09, 1771, Abbeville County, South Carolina; d. September 18, 1855, Decatur County, Indiana, USA.
55. iii. SUSANNAH TYNER, b. Abt. 1772, Abbeville, South Carolina; d. March 01, 1813, Jackson Co., Georgia.
56. iv. MEHITABEL TYNER, b. March 19, 1774, Abbeville District, South Carolina; d. February 23, 1848, Fayette County, Indiana, USA.
57. v. JAMES TYNER, b. August 17, 1776, Mecklenburg County, North Carolina, USA; d. December 08, 1823, Harrison Twp., Fayette Co., Indiana, USA.
58. vi. JOHN TYNER, b. August 17, 1776, Mecklenburg County, North Carolina; d. January 09, 1822, Harrison Township, Fayette County, Indiana, USA.
59. vii. MARGARET TYNER, b. November 17, 1778, Abbeville District, South Carolina, USA; d. June 20, 1845, Rush County, Indiana, USA.
Could this be this William?
Northampton County, NC - WILLS - Tyner, William - 28 Dec 1778
Contributed by Linda Green LGreen at bdm.com
Wm. Tyners Will
..... In the name of God amen. I William Tyner of the County of Noampton in the province of North Carolina being of perfect mind and menory thanks given to Almighty God for the came calling to mind the mortality that attend my body & it is appointed for all men once to die do make and ordain and constitute this to be my last will and testament in manner & form following viz.
First of all I summon my sons into the hands of Almighty God that gave it hoping through the merits do other & sessions of my saviour Jesus Christ to have full and free pardon and ____of my sins and my body I commit to the Earth to be buried decent and Christian like manner at the disaction of my executors hereafter named & as to such worldly estate as it hath pleased Almighty God to grant upon me I do give and bequeath in a manner and form following
vis.
..... Item. First of all my will and desire and that all my debts and funeral charges shall be paid and discharged.
..... Item. I give and bequeath unto Essa Tyner four shillings cash money.
..... Item. I give unto my daughter Martha Carter four shillings money.
..... Item. I give unto my son John Tyner five shillings Virginia money.
..... I give unto my daughter Elizabeth Davis five shillings Virginia money.
.... Item. I give unto my beloved wife Elizbeth Tyner the third tract of still also the third of my negro fellow named Nero also the third of my land. Also the third of all the rest of my estte during her widowhood and if she should marry then to have but a childs tract, and after my wife decease or in case she should marry, I then give unto my son Due Tyner my Negro named Niass and if my wife should marry, I then give unto my daughters Sarah Tyner, Justine Tyner and Milla Tyner my still.
..... Item. I give unto my three sons to wit Arthur Tyner, Wm. Tyner, and Due Tyner that tract of land called the Trinawood containing six hundred forty acres more or less, to be equally divided among my three sons Arthur, William and Due the upper forty called the Brush Pond, to Arthur Tyner the lower forty called Sterlins Oldfield, to Wm. Tyner another joining tract to the land I now live on called Bittles to Due Tyner and if either of my said sons Arthur, Wm., or Due should die without issue the said tract of land to be equally divided between the other two and likewise if two should die without issue one to have the hole and if they all should die without issue, I leave the said tract of land to be equaly divided between my four daughters to wit Mary Tyner, Sarah Tyner, Justine Tyner and Milly Tyner and if either of them should die without issue to be equally divided among the rest of my said daughters here mentioned and all the rest of my estate to be equally divided amongst the rest of my children to wit Wm. Tyner, Mary Tyner, Arthur Tyner, Nicholas Tyner, Due Tyner, Sarah Tymer, Presly Tyner, Milla Tyner, and my will and desire is that Arthur Williams, Jesse Williams and Joel Sheard should divide up my estate amongst my children according to my will.
..... Item. I do hereby constitute and appoint my friend William Sheard and Richd Figunes and John Tyner full and hole and sole executors of my last will and testament.
..... Item. I do hereby make disavowal and void all other wills and testaments by me heretofore made and acknowledged this to be my last. Witness whereof I have here unto set my hand and seal this 28th day of Dec. 1778
William Tyner (Seal)
Signed, Sealed and Delivered in the presence of us Wlliam Carter, Benj. Morrell, Mary Tyner.
Noampton County March Court 1779.
The preceding will of Wm. Tyner was exhibited in court proved by the oath of William Carter, Benj. Morrel, Mary Tyner of the subscribing witnesses thereto ordered to be certified and recorded. Test. Joseph Atherton. Clk.
From: ThatBeBob at AOL.COM
To: tynerlist at scott.net
Dennis,
I think what needs to be done is to look for the "Dempsey" surname in the early records of Isle of Wight Co., VA and Chowan and Bertie Co., NC. I have come across more than one family there ca 1750 who had children with given names Dempsey. One that comes to mind is Dempsey Wood who was on the 1757 tax list of Bertie County. There has been one theory that Dempsey Tyner was the son of William Tyner Jr., who was the son of William Tyner Sr., who was the illegitimate son of Sarah Tyner and John Harris. William Tyner Sr. moved from Chowan to Bertie Co. about 1750 and left a will there in 1762. His son William Jr. may have stayed in Chowan but by 1771 had moved to South Carolina when he sold his father's land in Bertie from Craven Co., SC. William Jr. is probably one of the decendents of William and John Harris Tyner (Caleb, Harris, Richard etc) who show up in and around Abbevile District in the 1770's, along with Dempsey.
Bob Erwin
i. WILLIAM TYNER.
South Carolina
Ninety Six District } to wit
We the under writen Subcribers being Deeply afected at this time on account of the present Inovation that of late have tacken place and Still Sem Continioned between Great Briten and the american CoLonies and allso being well Convinsed that great pracation(PRECAUTION) ought to be ussed by Every person in Suporting and mantaning our Rights and priveleges which we are Intitlied to as being free Born acording to knowen laws of nature and nations And furder Being So Siteuated that an Exended tract of land within the limeats of this Provence lays much Exposed to the Executions of an Indan Enemy, Should the present Seeming Ill Disposed person who Wisheth Ill to the Human race and tranquility of the British Impaier, and being fully minded to do Every thing in our powr Consistent with the oblagations that we lay under to our Countrey in general to our Selves as free men and to our Posteraty
that the worald may be fully Satisfyed of our loyal Intension, We propose to Defend our Contrey in her libertys from any Invasion what So Ever one (AND)alloas Redy free volanteers unless when we may be Calld upon Dutty and there we Expect acording to the pay of the other trupse Commitneed and payed by the government
Given under our hands this 12th Day of Septem'r 1775
John Calhoun Demesey Tyner James Moon
John Norwood Samuel Hopkens Moses Liddell
Michael Blaisy
Samuel Miller Junr Lewis Falaw
William Miller Senr Gideon Holms
Samuel (his X mark) Miller Senr Jas. Harrell
John (his X mark) McAvoy Jno. Stevenson
Luther Henderson Alex'r Stevenson
James Henderson Hugh Stevenson
Allan Nagrit Herman Hall
Samuel Black Wm Kowiel
Benjamin Hays Jos. Kowiel
James Brimingham Wm. Wallace
James (his X mark) Miorey Jno. Adair
Jared Liddell Thos. Batey
James Weems Jas. Jones
David Miller Jno. McKadam
Robert Bone Jas. Anderson
Rob't. Black Wm. Wallace
Thomas Turner
William Boys
Thomas Wilson
??? ??? in
Harris Tyner 96 District
James Stevenson
And'w Miller
John Miller
Robert Miller
Stephin Stephons
William Ros
Caleb Tyner
John Johnson
60. i. DEMPSEY TYNER, b. August 04, 1755, Chowan County, North Carolina, USA; d. October 13, 1842, Meriwether County, Georgia, USA.
i. JAMES PADGETT.
ii. ERVIN PADGETT.
iii. SELAH PADGETT.
iv. LYDIA PADGETT.
v. SARAH PADGETT.
vi. HENRY PADGETT, b. Abt. 1770.
61. i. ELIJAH PADGETT, b. February 16, 1791.
ii. MOSES PADGETT, b. Abt. 1783.
iii. WARREN PADGETT, b. Abt. 1786.
iv. SUSANNAH PADGETT, b. Abt. 1788.
Josiah's will was probated in Edgefield Co. SC in 1812.
i. MILLY PADGETT, b. Abt. 1778, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
62. ii. GRACE PADGETT, b. Abt. 1779, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
63. iii. HENRY PADGETT, b. Abt. 1780, Edgefield County, South Carolina; d. January 1830, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
64. iv. MARK PADGETT, b. Abt. 1782, Edgefield County, South Carolina; d. June 1837, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
v. LUKE PADGETT, b. Abt. 1784, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
65. vi. JOSIAH PADGETT, b. Abt. 1788, Edgefield County, South Carolina; d. December 21, 1844, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
66. vii. SAMUEL PADGETT, b. Abt. 1790, Edgefield County, South Carolina; d. February 05, 1860.
viii. SAFFEY PADGETT, b. Abt. 1794, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
ix. ALITHEA PADGETT, b. Abt. 1796, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
67. x. ARTHUR JEFFERSON PADGETT, b. Abt. 1798, Edgefield County, South Carolina; d. September 06, 1853, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
Job served 183 days in Capt. Michael Watson's Volunteers on Horseback. Fought at the Battle of Cloud's Creek with his brother Josiah during Revolutionary War. Pay received by Elijah Padget, his brother who departed for Georgia after 1790. Since Job Padgett did not leave a will and he had a large plantation at he time of his death in 1837 in Edgefield County, his probate was being fought over in equity court for a great many years.
i. NANCY PADGETT, b. Edgefield County, South Carolina.
ii. MELINDA PADGETT, b. Abt. 1782, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
68. iii. SARAH PADGETT, b. Abt. 1785, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
69. iv. JOB PADGETT, b. Abt. 1787, Edgefield County, South Carolina; d. Abt. 1875, Randolph County, Alabama, USA.
70. v. MARGARET PADGETT, b. April 19, 1795, Edgefield County, South Carolina; d. March 01, 1884.
vi. MARY ANN PADGETT, b. Abt. 1797, Edgefield County, South Carolina; d. April 21, 1853, Crawford, Georgia.
71. vii. JANE PADGETT, b. January 10, 1800, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
viii. DEBRA PADGETT, b. Abt. 1801, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
72. ix. CHESLEY PADGETT, b. Abt. 1803, Edgefield County, South Carolina; d. September 19, 1857, Sand Flats, Van Sant County, Texas.
73. x. WILLIAM PADGETT, b. April 09, 1804, Edgefield County, South Carolina; d. December 03, 1884, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
i. JOB PADGETT, b. Abt. 1780, Colleton County, South Carolina.
ii. JOEL PADGETT, b. Abt. 1783, Colleton County, South Carolina.
iii. ISHAM PADGETT, b. Abt. 1784, Colleton County, South Carolina.Generation No. 5
http://members.fortunecity.com/mcbride_clan/war1812.htm
Muster rolls for NC militia in War of 1812
THIRD REGIMENT
THIRD COMPANY
DETACHED FROM THE NORTHAMPTON REGIMENT
JAS. C. HARRISON CAPTAIN
STERLING MILTON LIEUTENANT
WHITMEL RULLAND ENSIGN
Arthur Tyner
James W. Davis
Arthur was an enlisted man, no rank was shown.
"No: 3401 To whom granted and rank: Nicholas Tyner the heir of Arthur Pearce Tyner, Pri. desd. No. acres: 640 Service in months: 84"
and
Pierce Tyner, bet. ages 60-70 and one female bet. 80-90 on the 1840, Marion Co., MS census, p. 116.
This 1840 record is listed three lines above the listing for John Tyner [John Pierce Tyner, Sr.].
74. i. JOHN PEARCE TYNER, b. Abt. 1792, Georgetown District, South Carolina, USA; d. Aft. 1860, Marion County, Mississippi, USA.
75. ii. JAMES TYNER, b. Abt. 1804, South Carolina.
Rev. Gabriel Blackburn was born in North Carolina and lived in the Florida Parishes from 1798-1815. He was a Methodist minister.
76. i. ELIZABETH BLACKBURN, b. Abt. 1794, Feliciana Parish, Louisiana; d. Aft. 1860, Perry County, Mississippi.
77. ii. ALEXANDER S. BLACKBURN, b. Abt. 1796, Feliciana Parish, Louisiana; d. April 18, 1889, Sabine County, Texas.
iii. HARRIET BLACKBURN, b. Abt. 1798, Feliciana Parish, Louisiana; d. Sabine County, Texas; m. JOHN M. FREELAND, Abt. 1820.
iv. ARMSTRONG JOEL BLACKBURN, b. October 11, 1801, Feliciana Parish, Louisiana; d. September 19, 1867, Marion County, Mississippi; m. SUSANNAH ?.
Notes for ARMSTRONG JOEL BLACKBURN:
Usually found as A.J. Blackburn, Armstrong was also a Methodist minister. A.J. was preaching in Washington Parish Louisiana in 1867. He went to Columbia Mississippi for court and got sick and died there. He was also a medical doctor. A.J. Blackburn m. Susannah Bostick, a widow whose line is also entangled with Blackburns in NC. BAPTIST AND METHODIST RECORDS OF THE FLORIDA PARISHES OF LOUISIANA by Donna Burge Adams, Vol 3, 1989 is the source of most of the above info. from letters from Mrs. Max V. Sanford of Pasadena TX in June 1985 and Mary Fisher of jackson, MS in Aug, 1986, from M. Blackburn, Genforum.com
78. v. FELICIANA BLACKBURN, b. September 05, 1803, Feliciana Parish, Louisiana; d. July 15, 1876, Lawrence County, Mississippi.
79. vi. FERDINAND BOON BLACKBURN, b. Abt. 1806, Feliciana Parish, Louisiana, USA; d. Aft. 1883, Covington County, Mississippi, USA.
vii. FRANCES AMELIA BLACKBURN, b. April 10, 1812, Marion County, Mississippi; d. 1875, Meansville, San Patricio County, Texas; m. WILLIAM MARSHALL MEANS, March 08, 1830, Marion County, Mississippi; b. December 14, 1809, Georgia; d. January 31, 1876, Meansville, San Patricio County, Texas.
Notes for FRANCES AMELIA BLACKBURN:
MEANS, WILLIAM (1809-1876). William (William A., William Marshall) Means, soldier, legislator, and public official, was born in Georgia on December 14, 1809. He married Frances Amelia Blackburn around 1831, and in 1832 the couple moved from Louisiana to what is now Sabine County, Texas. Means was in the Texas army from January 21 until April 21, 1836, and was a baggage guard during the battle of San Jacinto.qv After his army service he returned to Sabine County, where he served as the county's first sheriff. From 1843 until 1845 he represented Sabine County in the House of the Eighth and Ninth congresses. Shortly after his last term in Congress, Means and his family moved to DeWitt County; there they lived until the late 1850s, when they moved to San Patricio County. Means helped to establish the community of Meansville in 1874, when he and his son Napoleon, with fourteen others, built the combination church and school building that served as the focus of the settlement. On January 31, 1876, Means was killed while confronting a posse that had come to his house to arrest three of his sons for disturbing the peace in Bee County. His death precipitated the Means-Garner Feud.qv
BIBLIOGRAPHY: Keith Guthrie, History of San Patricio County (Austin: Nortex, 1986). Texas House of Representatives, Biographical Directory of the Texan Conventions and Congresses, 1832-1845 (Austin: Book Exchange, 1941).
Cecil Harper, Jr.
Col. William Marshall Means, a veteran of the Battle of San Jacinto, came to San Patricio County with his family in the 1850s and settled southeast of present Odem. Means was county sheriff from 1862 to 1867. The center of the community was a two-story building erected by the Methodist congregation in 1874. It also served as a schoolhouse, ecumenical church and community center. By January 1876, the community was thriving and headed for a promising future when three of Col. Means' sons went on a shooting spree in Papalote in Bee County. A posse which included San Patricio County Sheriff Ed Garner tracked them to their father's ranch, where Col. Means was killed. In August, Ed Garner was shot as he attended church services. Alley Means was convicted of murder, but later pardoned by Gov. John Ireland. The townspeople lived in fear until the Texas Rangers ordered the Means families to leave the area. By the early 1880s they had sold their San Patricio County holdings.
Is this him?
Source: 1850 Census, Robeson County, North Carolina
Southern Division
Census Taken July 31, 1850
House: 114...Family : 114
Benjamin Tyner Sr. ...60... Male... Farmer... Real Estate worth $100... Born Johnson Co, NC... Cannot read or write
Margaret...20... Female...Born Robeson Co, NC...
Eli Pravatt...15... Male... Student...Born Robeson Co, NC
Benjamin Tyner Jr. ...21... Male... Laborer...Born Robeson Co, NC
Census Microfilm Records: North Carolina, 1860
Age: 69
Gender: M
Race: W
Birthplace: NC
State: North Carolina
County: ROBESON
Locale: LUMBERTON P O
Series: M653
Roll: 911
Part: 1
Page: 436B
Tyner, Benjamin...69...farmer...NC...$60 personal
Daughtry, G. A. ...9...male...NC
80. i. NICHOLAS TYNER, b. Abt. 1816, Robeson County, North Carolina, USA; d. Abt. 1900, Robeson County, North Carolina, USA.
81. ii. ELIZABETH TYNER, b. Abt. 1819.
82. iii. JAMES TYNER, b. Abt. 1825, Robeson County, North Carolina, USA; d. March 13, 1865, Elmira Prison, Elmira, Chemung County, New York, USA.
83. iv. WILLIAM TYNER, b. Abt. 1823, Robeson County, North Carolina, USA; d. July 18, 1864, Elmira Prison, Elmira, Chemung County, New York, USA.
84. v. BENJAMIN J. TYNER, b. November 19, 1828, Robeson County, North Carolina, USA; d. August 20, 1862, Richmond, Virginia, USA.
vi. MARGARET TYNER, b. Abt. 1830, North Carolina; d. Bef. 1852; m. HENRY PREVATTE, August 21, 1850, Robeson County, North Carolina; b. January 24, 1825, Robeson County, North Carolina; d. June 20, 1895.
Per http://www.sallysfamilyplace.com/Neighbors/Cross0.htm
Riddick [Reddick] Cross ca 1775 -1847 Fayette Co, TN
married Penelope "Pennie" Lewis - d bef. 1827
a. Priscilla Cross
b. Nancy Cross
c. David Cross
d. John Cross
e. Betsie Cross
f. Mary Cross
[ N. Carolina Chronicle, Murfreesboro, NC Mar 23 1827 -- Married - Married on Thursday the 15th instant by Collin W Barnes, Esq. Maj. Reddick Cross of Hertford to Mrs. Elizabeth Sowerby of Northampton.]
married 2nd 15 Mar 1827 Elizabeth Dew Tyner [Sowerby] ca 1798-1875 TN
daughter of Nicholas Tyner of Northampton Co NC
Dew was the maiden name of her grandmother Tyner
- " Elizabeth Sowerby was the widow of James H. Sowerby of Northampton County. (She was also the sister of my 2nd great grandmother.) By James Sowerby she had two daughters -- Lucy and Sarah. After her marriage to Reddick Cross they lived in Winton and had at least two daughters. In the late 1830's Reddick Cross, his new wife and at least one son, David, moved to Fayette County Tennessee and there became very distinguished members of the community. After their move to Tennessee they had a number of additional children."
- e-mail from Betsy Boone Crowder 11/14/01
a. Frances Christine Cross 1 March 1828, Winton -
b. Martha Amanda Cross 11 July 1829, Winton -
c. Thomas C. Cross ca 1832, NC -
d. Rebecca E. Cross Jan 1834, NC -
family removed to TN in 1836
e. Susan A. Cross ca 1837, TN -
f. Cornelia Ann Cross 1839 - Fayette Co, TN -
g. William Cross ca 1840, TN -
"Madison Parker and Frances C. Cross were married in Fayette Co., Tenn., December 30, 1847. She was a daughter of Major Reddick Cross (177?-1847) and Elizabeth D. (Tyner) Cross, whose plantation (some 1009 acres), Elysian Grove, was located in western Fayette County; the red-brick house thereon is now a forlorn derelict compared to its former splendor. It is described by Bernice Cargill in an article that appeared in the "Fayette County Historical Society Bulletin," volume one, number seventeen (July 1987), pages 67-70. The Crosses had come there from North Carolina about 1836.
THE NASHVILLE CHRISTIAN ADVOCATE, 1861; 1872-1873
By Jonathan Kennon Thompson Smith
Copyright, Jonathan K. T. Smith, 1997
April 19, 1873
ELIZABETH D. CROSS died Fayette Co., Tenn. April 1, 1873; d/o Nicholas Tyner, a veteran of the Revolutionary War; born Northampton Co., N.C. May 8, 1798; a widow for 25 years.
i. SARAH R. SOWERBY, m. ? FAIN.
ii. LUCY SOWERBY.
85. iii. FRANCES CHRISTINE CROSS, b. March 01, 1828; d. March 15, 1909.
86. iv. MARTHA AMANDA CROSS, b. July 11, 1829.
87. v. REBECCA E. CROSS, b. July 1834.
vi. THOMAS C. CROSS, b. Abt. 1831.
vii. SUSAN V. CROSS, b. Abt. 1836.
Notes for SUSAN V. CROSS:
Susan V. Cross, who was never married, became emotionally ill and was institutionalized for years before her death. A jury appointed to determine her mental condition declared that she was "at this time /March 6, 1883/ the subject of insanity and is a lunatic and probably incurable and that she has been a lunatic since 1873"; was hospitalized at the "Lunatic Asylum" at Louisville, Ky. Incapable of handling her own affairs, her: brother, Thomas C. Cross was appointed her guardian. (Fayette Co. Court Minute Book R, pages 285-286). Her 118 acres of the Cross real estate was acquired by Cornelia A. (Cross) Lynn and by her sold in 1905.
viii. CORNELIA ANN CROSS, b. April 1839; d. December 18, 1914, Nashville, Tennessee; m. CHARLES LYNN, January 07, 1886.
ix. WILLIAM CROSS, b. Abt. 1840; d. Abt. 1879.
i. TURNER DAVIS, b. Abt. 1806, Northampton County, North Carolina; d. Abt. 1885, Northampton County, North Carolina; m. (1) SARAH SIMPSON; b. Abt. 1820; m. (2) MARTHA BARNES, September 26, 1828.
88. ii. MARTHA DAVIS, b. Abt. 1814, Northampton County, North Carolina.
89. iii. JESSE DAVIS, b. Abt. 1818.
90. iv. ELIZABETH G. DAVIS, b. Abt. 1819, Northampton County, North Carolina; d. Abt. 1866, Northampton County, North Carolina.
v. SARAH DAVIS, b. Abt. 1826.
vi. NEWBORN DAVIS, b. Abt. 1829; m. (1) JULIA A. POWELL; m. (2) BETTY WESTER.
i. MARY DAVIS, b. Abt. 1826.
ii. WILLIAM A. DAVIS, b. Abt. 1841.
September 1850, applied for bounty under Act of 28, Sept 1850.
May 15, 1852, appeared bef. Odom, Clerk & Wm Barrow, chrm, Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions.
August 04, 1852, issued 40 acres BLWt 68498.
April 18, 1855, age 80 applied for add'l bounty lands under Act of 1855.
December 20, 1855, issued 120 acres under Act of 1855 BLWt44725.
Military service: 1812, Served under John F. Walker 1st Regiment N.C.
i. NANCY POPE.
91. ii. RIDDICK POPE, b. Abt. 1819, Northampton County, North Carolina; d. January 28, 1896, Northampton County, North Carolina.
92. iii. EMMA POPE, b. Abt. 1828, Northampton County, North Carolina.
iv. SALLIE B. POPE, b. Abt. 1830.
v. ARENA ELIZABETH POPE, b. Abt. 1830.
93. i. REBECCA J. DAVIS, b. February 22, 1827, Northampton County, North Carolina; d. February 14, 1913, Northampton County, North Carolina.
94. ii. ELIZABETH JANE DAVIS, b. Abt. 1832, Northampton County, North Carolina; d. July 24, 1873, Northampton County, North Carolina.
iii. KINCHEN DAVIS, b. January 22, 1834, Northampton County, North Carolina; d. August 04, 1908, Northampton County, North Carolina; m. THERESA ADELIA SIKES, October 03, 1854, Northampton County, North Carolina.
iv. DRURY T. DAVIS, b. Abt. 1840; d. March 27, 1865, Elmira Prison, New York; m. LAVENIA ANN MILENNA SUSAN FLYTHE, Abt. 1862, North Carolina; b. Abt. 1844, North Carolina.
Notes for DRURY T. DAVIS: PVT Company F 1st North Carolina.
v. WINBORN C. DAVIS, b. Abt. 1840; d. 1865, Gettysburg, Pennsylvania.
i. ANNIE TAYLOR, b. Abt. 1840.
Source for children: WorldConnect tree of Dallas LeRoy Phelps at rootsweb.com
i. HENRY WHITFIELD PEEBLES, m. REBECCA ANN ?.
ii. ETHELRED J. PEEBLES.
William was a farmer who lived in Pitt and Edgecombe counties, North Carolina and in Davidson Co. TN. In 1775 he was a member of the "Safety Committee for Pitt County," and that year signed a document protesting the taxing of colonists by Great Britain.
95. i. JOHN CORBITT, b. October 20, 1790, Davidson County, Tennessee; d. November 08, 1862, Nashville, Davidson County, Tennessee.
96. ii. CHRISTINE CORBITT, b. April 24, 1793, Davidson County, Tennessee.
Meredith served in the Revolutionary War. The family migrated to Richmond County, then Davidson County, TN, settling on Mill Creek abt. 1815. Later they moved to the Rushing Creek area of Benton County, Tennessee.
per Amos Lawrence Corbitt (shrlock30 at aol.com)
and
CORBITT DESCENDANCY PAGEat http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walnutridge/farm_view_000008.htm
i. BRYANT CORBITT, b. Abt. 1798.
ii. DEMPSEY CORBITT, b. Abt. 1800.
iii. JOHN CORBITT, b. Abt. 1802.
iv. NANCY CORBITT, b. Abt. 1804.
v. HARDEE CORBITT, b. 1806.
vi. AMOS SMITH CORBITT, b. Abt. 1792.
Notes for AMOS SMITH CORBITT: Born out of wedlock, Amos is technically a Smith, but he changed his name.
September Term 1847
Issued Sept. 9th.
On Motion it is ordered by the Court that William Holmes be appointed overseer of the stage road to work from the Tennessee River to the 4 Mile post Paris road, hands as follows; Wilie Arnold, Wm. A.T. Cate, James Sykes, Eli Holmes, John Arnold, William Durdin, Thomas Durdin, James Cuff, Pinking Cuff, F.R. Cuff, Asbury Cuff, John Penick, the hands of Eligah Penick, James Ross, Hyram Johnson, A.T. Corbitt, Amos Corbitt and all other hands in the bounds shall work under said Holmes on said road which is established in the 1st Class.
97. vii. WILLIAM CORBITT, b. Abt. 1794, Pitt County, North Carolina; d. October 30, 1884.
98. viii. JAMES CORBITT, b. Abt. 1798.
99. ix. NANCY CORBITT, b. Abt. 1802.
x. MARTHA CORBITT, b. Abt. 1805.
xi. DEMPSEY CORBITT, b. Abt. 1807; d. Aft. 1853.
100. xii. MEREDITH SMITH CORBITT, b. May 10, 1814, Richmond, North Carolina, USA; d. May 20, 1880, Benton County, Tennessee, USA.
101. xiii. ALLEN T. CORBITT, b. May 13, 1817, Camden, Benton County, Tennessee, USA; d. March 17, 1889, Plant, Humphreys County, Tennessee, USA.
Will of Jesse Tiner (abstracted)
26 May 1818
Prob. Aug. Ct. 1818
Wife Sallie- 1 Negro girl Tamer & household furnishings forever. Land; 1 Negro man Caleb
Son James- 1 silver dollar
Son Willis- 1 silver dollar
Son John- 1 silver dollar
Son William- 1 silver dollar
Son Lewis- Negro boys Issac & Abram; Negro Caleb after death of wife
Heirs of daughter Sally Farrow- $ 1.00 each: Eliza, Polly, John & Benjamin Farrow
Exec: Sallie Tiner, Lewis Tiner son, Needham Green Bryan friend
Wit: John Whitley Jr, Thomas Edwards Sr, Ann Midgett
"Johnston county marriage records reveal widow Sarah Midyett, marrying Jesse Tiner on November 26, 1812 and the 1813 Johnston county court minutes orders that Josiah Meddyatt, "an orphan child of Sarah Tiner, be bound and apprenticed to Jacob Brooks until he arrives to the age of 21, he now being about 11 years old, to be taught the business of carpentering". Jesse Tiner's Johnston county will was probated in August 1818, and makes, among other bequeaths, negros Tamer & Caleb to his wife Sally.
Sally (Brooks) Midyett Tiner remained in Johnston county at least until the taking of the 1820 census where she is listed as Sally Tyner over the age of 45 with 2 male slaves and 1 foreigner (not naturalized) in her household. The next record of evidence is recorded in Haywood Co., Tennessee where she made her will on January 12, 1826 as "Sally Tyner of Madison County, Tennessee" leaving negro, Tamer, to her daughter Ann Wellings and her Bible to son Micajah. The remainder, after the debts were paid, went to her son Josiah Midyett."
All the following is from http://www.rootsweb.com/~nchyde/TENNCONN.HTM :
Sarah moved from Hyde county sometime before the taking of the 1810 census where she is found in Johnston Co., N.C. as Sally Midget with 1 male 0-10, 1 male 10-16, 1 male 16-26, 1 female 0-10, 2 females 10-16, 1 female 16-26, 1 female over 45, 1 slave and 1 free black. She, "Sarah Midyett, widow and relict of the late Jesse Midyett of Hyde Co., N.C.", releases a quit claim to Benjamin Hall on May 14, 1811 for the 3 1/2 acres that was originally sold to Christopher O'Neal in Feb. 1803.
i. WILLIS TYNER, b. Bet. 1764 - 1774, North Carolina; m. PARTHENIA JERNIGAN, August 12, 1799, Johnston County, North Carolina, USA.
1850 - Northern District, Sampson, North Carolina
Source Citation: Year: 1850; Census Place: Northern District, Sampson, North Carolina; Roll: M432_644; Page: 412; Image: 367.
Guilford Bradshaw...55...NC
Edith Bradshaw...40...NC
Theiney Bradshaw...16...NC
Sion Bradshaw...14...NC...male
Elizabeth Bradhsaw...11...NC
Silsey Bradshaw...9...NC...female
Theiney Tyner...75...NC
Susan Oates...55...NC
102. ii. SARAH TYNER, b. Abt. 1775; d. Abt. 1816.
103. iii. LEWIS TYNER.
104. iv. WILLIAM ARCH TYNER, b. Bet. 1789 - 1794, Johnston County, North Carolina, USA; d. Aft. 1880, Itawamba County, Mississippi, USA.
v. ELIZA TYNER.
vi. POLLY TYNER.
vii. JESSE TYNER.
viii. JAMES TYNER, b. Abt. 1813.
ix. JOHN TYNER, b. Abt. 1818.
Her father, Richard Tyner, sold his last land in Johnson Co, NC in 1767. Her brother, Joshua
Tyner, stated he was born in Wilkes Co., GA in 1769. She was captured by the Creek Indians in a attack on Richard Tyner's home is about 1778-9, while Richard and his son Samuel, were fighting at the battle of "Kettle Creek".
for letters of administration April 19, 1796, Granted May 27, 1796. Inventory shows 250 acres of land on Coldwater Creek, adj. Richard Tiner, 190 acres adj. Wm. Taylor, Mark Thornton, Job Teasley and Richard Tiner, [sp], References: See Pages 5-8, GA. DAR. Historical Collections, Vol 3.
By Dascheau and page 144, same vol; May 27th 1796, Admin of John Monack, dec'd, mark thornton, Security. Note this proves that Coldwater Creek and not Coody's Creek is where the Tiners lived and Richard not William was father of Tamar and Mary.
"My mother's maiden name was Nancy Monack. She was the only child of John Monack, who was French and came from San Domingo and married my grandmother, Mary Tyner, of German or Dutch Blood, I know not which. Grandmother afterwards married James Riley and bore only one child who was married to William Bailey, raising a number of children - old ones long since dead & young ones scattered -- some in Ark. & some in Tex."
105. i. NANCY MONIAC, b. November 1787, Wilkes County, Georgia, USA; d. October 01, 1850, Marshall, Mississippi, USA.
ii. ? RILEY, m. WILLIAM BAILEY.
He was born Abt 1763. He fought in Rev. War with his father. Believe he was away fighting the Indians with his father at the time of the Indian Raid on Richard's family, or they were on a hunting trip at that time. In Sep.21, 1784 he obtained land grant in Wilkes Co, GA. Samuel has not been found in any census. The 1790 & 1800 GA census was destroyed and he had probably moved out of state by 1810. I believe Samuel was named after his father's [Richard] brother, Samuel Tyner. He is listed in his father's [Richard Tyner] will in 1824. He is deceased by Feb 18, 1827 - when his son, Joshua, signed as agent for Samuel's heirs, for distribution of Samuel's father's [Richard Tyner] estate. Heirs listed:
Thomas Tyner
Polly Rich
Mrs. James Marten
Joshua Tyner
Anny Tyne
106. i. THOMAS B. TYNER, b. Abt. 1789, Wilkes County, Georgia, USA; d. December 24, 1830, Tuscaloosa County, Alabama, USA.
ii. POLLY TYNER, m. ? RICH.
iii. JOSHUA TYNER.
iv. ANNA TYNER.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~arcolumb/queries2.htm
Cindy Williams Thu May 8 1997
HUNT/DANIEL
I am looking for information on my great, great grandmother, Tamar Tyner Hunt. She is buried in Columbia County in the Macedonia area. To my knowledge, she had only one child, Carrie Hunt Daniel, who is buried in Shiloh Cemetery north of Waldo. Any information on her DOB, date of death and her husbands' name would be helpful and very much appreciated. Thank you, Cindy Lee Williams
i. JAMES HUNT, b. Abt. 1782; m. (1) JANE T. ADAMS; m. (2) AGNES ?, July 14, 1825, Elbert County, Georgia.
ii. HENRY HUNT, b. Abt. 1792, Elbert County, Georgia; m. ELIZABETH ROBESON, Abt. 1812, Warren County, Georgia; b. Abt. 1790.
107. iii. MARY A. HUNT, b. February 05, 1799, Elbert County, Georgia; d. April 17, 1863, Elbert County, Georgia.
108. iv. GEORGE W. HUNT, b. Abt. 1800, Elbert County, Georgia; d. Bef. 1842, Lafayette County, Mississippi, USA.
109. v. JOHN SINGLETON HUNT, b. Abt. 1802, Elbert County, Georgia; d. Abt. 1877, Henry County, Georgia.
110. vi. WILLIAM JOEL HUNT, b. March 14, 1806, Elbert County, Georgia; d. November 29, 1877, Magnolia Township, Columbia County, Arkansas, USA.
vii. JOSHUA T. HUNT, b. Abt. 1810, Elbert County, Georgia.
viii. RICHARD TYNER HUNT, b. Abt. 1812, Elbert County, Georgia.
ix. NANCY H. HUNT, b. Abt. 1814, Elbert County, Georgia; d. Bet. 1831 - 1843; m. LAWRENCE W. ADAMS, November 14, 1826, Elbert County, Georgia; b. Abt. 1812; d. Abt. 1885.
x. TAMAR A. HUNT, m. JAMES HASTY, June 13, 1836, Coweta County, Georgia.
Rev. Soldiers Buried in Ill. 973.36 W15r p. 39 "Joshua Tyner served in the war from Georgia. He came to Jackson Co. Ill., but removed to Franklin Co., where he died. He was pensioned. Moved to Illinois in 1817.
According to the records a Joshua Tyner bought and sold a no. of parcels of land in Middle Tenn. (primarly Montgomery Co.) between 1811 and 1819. It appears he left shortly after Noah died.
From the Rev. War Records of Joshua Tyner: "I was born July 21, 1767 in Wilkes Co., GA. I returned there after the war where my father was living during the latter part of the Rev. War."
Another entry indicated he died in Franklin Co., ILL. In a letter from a librarian in Franklin Co., that was included in the pension record she stated that Joshua was the son of a Cherokee Indian and Eliza Jane Tyner.
MILITARY: Rev War Pens Appl Nat'l Archives M805-0805,32561. Name spelled TYNER throughout except for last one used for issuance of pension as TINER, signed by mark. 1833 res on line betweeen Franklin/Jackson Counties.
.....State of IL, County of Franklin. Affidavit of Joshua Tyner Senior a resident of Franklin Co IL, aged 65 yrs. He was born 21 day of July 1767 in Wilk Co, GA and was there until he entered service at age 15 in August 1781. Was a spy under Captain Joel Dolp (Dop). Fought indians. After the war he returned to his father's house in Wilkes' Co, GA until 1806 when he moved to Montgomery Co TN. 1817 or 18 he emigrated to the Territory of IL, to the neighborhood he now lives.
.....6/1833Affidavit from Joshua TINOR (signed it himself as Tinor) states he was a private under Captain Joseph Nail for 10 months and 15 days. 2/22/1834. There are other affidavits from witnesses that know Joshua and his character.
Dear Madam:
.....Reference is amde to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War record of Joshua Tyner, who served from Georgia and died in IL. The data give herein where found in pension claim, S. 32561, based upon service of Joshua Tiner in the Revolutionary War. Joshua Tiner was born 7/21/1767, in Wilkes, Co, GA, where his father was living during the latter part of the Rev War; the names of his parents were not stated. While a resident of Wilkes Co, GA, Joshua Tiner enlisted and served as spy and private, reanging the fontier against the hostile indians, on tours shown as follow: from 8/15/1781, four months in Captain Joel Doss' Co, Colonel James Little's regiment; from about 3/1/1782, seven months in Captain Joseph Nail's co; and from 12/1/1782, ten months and fifteen days in Captain Joseph Nail's co. He wasin one engagement which the indians in which both indians and settlers were killed. He returned to his father's house in Wilkes Co, GA in 5/1784, where he resided until 1806, when he moved to Monggomery Co, TN, thence in 1817 or 1818 to IL Territory, in the vicinity of Franklin and Jackson Co. He was allowed pension on his application executed 9/3/1832, at which time he resided in Franklin Co, IL. His name was borne Joshua Tyner on the pention rolls, he signed Joshua Tiner. In 1833 the soldier resided very near the line between Jackson and Franklin Co IL he referred them to his family but gave no name and no reference was made to his marriage. Referred as Joshua Tiner, Sr in 1832.
Very truly yours,
A. D. Miller, Executive Assist to the Administrator.
.....A letter from Mrs. Nannie G Parks to the Veteran's Administration 10/15/1936 wanted data on Joshua Tyner, who received a pension. He was the son of a Cherokee Indian and Eliza Jane Tyner. His wife was Winifred Teasley.
.....There is a return letter to Mr. R. E. Tyner, c/o Solicitor of the Treasury, Department of Justice, DC 6/30/1921 stating the same info as to the librarian.
Joshua and Winifred Tyner, migrated at an early date to IN, with a short stop over in Montgomery County, TN. They probably left GA along with Joshua's brother, Noah, and several of Winifred's brothers. (Taken from an article on the Hunt family in "History of Elbert County, GA" 1790 - 1835.)
Joshua and his family traveled north by wagon train with some Robertson County, North Carolina neighbors. They built a cabin in the Eight-Mile Prairie Williamson County, Illinois, arriving there about 1816. In 1818 census is Joshua Tyner (listed as Tiner) w 1 other male over 21 & 4 others. In 1820 census, Joshua Tyner (Tiner) w 11. In 1830 census, Joshua Tyner( Tiner) was 50-60.
--Joshua identified himself as white to census takers in both the 1820 and 1830 Illinois censuses. He later wrote an account of fighting Indians in Georgia as part of the Revolutionary War army.
--On Sept. 3, 1832, shortly after his 65th birthday, Joshua applied for a federal pension based on his military service. In court testimony, Joshua said he was a private and enlisted as a spy, "ranging the frontier against the hostile Indians."
--Joshua received his pension, $71.66 annually.
--In an 1876 history of Williamson County, Ill. - which was formed from the part of Franklin County that Joshua Tyner homesteaded - author Milo Erwin minced no words in his praise for the area's pioneers, Joshua included, who he said settled on the Eight Mile Prairie in 1816. They were all pure-blooded white men, Erwin avowed. "They were poor, but of unmixed blood. There were no half-breeds, neither of Indians nor other obnoxious races."
http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/il/williamson/cemeteries/wilson.txt
Tyner, Samuel - b. 1877; d. 1955 (son of James M. and Josephine Emerson Tyner)
Rebecca S., wife of Richard - d. 27 Mar 1846;aged 45y 2d (nee Arnet)
Winifred E., dau of R. & R. - d. 5 Mar 1848;aged 18y 3m 10d
Josephine - b. 1855; d. 1946 (nee Emerson, Wife of James Monroe Tyner)
i. WILLIS TYNER, b. December 01, 1793, Wilkes County, Georgia, USA; m. (1) FANNY JORDAN, August 13, 1812, Robertson, Tennessee; m. (2) SARAH ?, July 08, 1837, Franklin County, Illinois, USA.
ii. SARAH TYNER, b. January 16, 1795, Wilkes County, Georgia, USA; m. THOMAS E. LOUDEN, January 15, 1820, Carterville, Williamson County, Illinois, USA.
111. iii. JOHN TYNER, b. October 16, 1796, Wilkes County, Georgia, USA; d. November 07, 1843, Franklin County, Illinois (now Williamson Co.), USA.
112. iv. RICHARD ALONZO TYNER, b. July 17, 1798, Wilkes County, Georgia, USA; d. January 17, 1854, Williamson County, Illinois, USA.
113. v. ISHAM TYNER, b. February 08, 1800, Wilkes County, Georgia, USA.
114. vi. NANCY TYNER, b. September 16, 1801, Robertson County, Tennessee, USA; d. June 01, 1841, Cartersville Twp., Williamson County, Illinois, USA.
115. vii. LUCY TYNER, b. March 07, 1803, Robertson County, Tennessee, USA; d. October 11, 1871, Williamson County, Illinois, USA.
116. viii. PRISCILLA A. TYNER, b. April 09, 1804, Montgomery County, Tennessee, USA; d. September 14, 1843, Williamson County, Illinois, USA.
117. ix. JOSHUA TYNER, b. December 13, 1806, Robertson County, Tennessee, USA; d. Williamson County, Illinois, USA.
118. x. MARTHA TYNER, b. February 15, 1809, Robertson County, Tennessee, USA.
xi. MARY H. TYNER, b. February 15, 1809, Robertson County, Tennessee, USA; d. November 10, 1821.
xii. JAMES G. TYNER, b. July 25, 1811, Robertson County, Tennessee, USA; d. November 25, 1811, Montgomery County, Tennessee, USA.
xiii. WINIFRED TYNER, b. July 25, 1813, Montgomery, Robertson County, Tennessee, USA; m. REUBEN HERRING, September 30, 1831, Williamson County, Illinois, USA; b. Abt. 1805, Carolina; d. Jackson, Indiana.
Notes for WINIFRED TYNER:
Tiner, Winifred E., dau of R. & R. - d. 5 Mar 1848; aged 18y 3m 10d per Wilson Cemetery, Cambria, Williamson County, Illinois where she is buried with Richard and Rebecca.
One source: vanjensen at bigfoot.com
119. xiv. ANNA ELIZA TYNER, b. October 03, 1815, Franklin County, Illinois, USA; d. November 30, 1879, Williamson County, Illinois, USA.
120. xv. REBECCA TYNER, b. March 17, 1818, Franklin County, Illinois, USA; d. January 24, 1885, Williamson County, Illinois, USA.
Harris was scalped by the Creek Indians on their raid of the homestead in 1778 and left for dead. He is listed in the GA Tax List in Jackson County, GA in 1779, 1801, and 1804. He is also listed in the Elbert County Tax List from 1814-1817. Some of his land was on Cold Water Creek which lies near the border of Elbert and Hart Counties, GA. Fought in the War of 1812 in the 1st GA Militia (Harris?). His will is recorded in Elbert County, GA Will Book A, page 84. Harris Tyner owned 2300 acres in 1835 and had 9 slaves in 1840.
ABSTRACTS OF OLD NINETY-SIX 7 ABBEVILLE DISTRICT WILLS 7 BONDS
Pp 40 Brady, John - Box 12 Pack 252
Dated Oct. 183? Witnessed: HARRIS TINER
Will dated Mar. 25, 1844 in Abbeville Dist. Prov. Sept. 6, 1844 , Exr wife:
JANE TINER
Will dated Oct. 14, 1826. HARRIS TINER as a Witnexx
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Per Kristen Randle on the Tyner Mailing List, "...a Harris Tyner whose probate was proved in Abbeville in 1844 (Sept), naming his exec Jane Tyner. This Harris was closely aligned to the Brady family as well as the Weeds. His sister in law is Louisa Wiseman (the only Wiseman I can find is Daniel in that time and place)."
It is my will that all my just debts be paid out of my estate & the balance to be divided as follows.
I give unto my wife Ruthea Tyner one hundred forty acres of land including the plantation where I now live & bounded as follows beginning at a pine corner on Jaby Skeltons line runing South acrop the creek to a pine corner the west to a stake corner in the feald then north to a Chestnut Stake corner then the creek to be the line upto the mouth of a branch in the fealed then up the branch to the oald line then to the beginning corner to! belong to my wife Ruthea Tyner during of her life time & then to belong to my three daughters to wit Elizabeth Tyner Martha Tyner & Mealea Tyner.
I also give unto my wife Ruthea Tyner one yoak of oxins & Cart two sows & pigs one cow & calf one feather bead & furniture during of her life time & then to belong to my three daughters above named.
I also give unto my daughter Elizabeth Tyner one feather bead & furniture.
I also give unto my daughter Martha Tyner one feather bead & furniture.
I also give unto my daughter Mealia Tyner one feather bead & furniture.
I also give unto my son Tillison Tyner a peacs of land whereon he now lives bounded on the East by a stake line then runing south to the old original line then west to a read oak corner on McGees creek then north a smawl distance to a front oak corner then north to a pine corner then north to the head of a small Branch that runs into the creek the down said creek to the stake line.
I also gave unto my daughter, Jane Hansford & Nancy Tyner jointly between them the tract of land where John Hansford now lives it being about sixty acres more lep.
I also give unto Ann F. Higginbotam the tract of land whereon her Father William Higgenbotam now lives beginning at the mouth of the branch runing threw the feald where he now lives then the Creek to be the line to the mouth of a branch on the west side of the Creek then sipe said branch to the head then north to a hickery corner then East to a hickery corner then north to a read oak corner then along the old line upto against the fork of the road. I think it to be about forty acres.
I give unto my son William Tyner one dollar.
I give unto my son Calop Tyner one dollar to be paid out of my estate.
I also give unto my daughter Patsy one cow.
I also give unto my daughter Elizabeth Tyner one cow.
I also give unto my daughter Mealey Tyner one Mare.
I also wish my Executors to sell a tract of land that own a lying near where Wm Mance formerly lived & one in the perchacs & all other property that I have not given a way in this my will & to pay of my just debts with it & then equally divide this the balance between my lawfull heirs accept William Tyner & Calop Tyner who is to have no part of the proceeds of the sale of my property only the one dollar each.
I do nominate & appoint my son Tollison Tyner Executor to this my last will & Testament giving him full power & authority to act & manage my estate according to the tenor of this my last will & Testament & I do hereby revoke & disanull all former wills & bequeath ratifying & confirming this my last will in Witnep where of I do set my h& & seal the 18th day of April 1844.
Joel Hutchenson Harris Tyner (Seal)
Barnabas Barron
Thomas Hilley
I also give unto my wife Ruthea Tyner all of my working tools Household & kitchen furniture that I had not heretofore despose of during of her life time & then to belong to my three daughters Elizabeth Tynor, Martha Tyner, Mealea Tynor. April the 18th 1844. I set my hand and seal
Joel Hutchenson Harris Tyner (Seal)
Barnabas Barron
Thomas Hilley
Elbert County } Personally came into open Court. Barnabus Barron & Thomas Hilley
} and being sworn saith that they were present and saw Harris Tyner who is now deceased sign and seal the within and foregoing instrument, as his last will and Testament and codicil thereto and that they together with Joel Hutchenson signed the same as witnepes in the presence of the testator and in the presence of each other at the request of the testator and that the defeonants believe the testator to have been of sound mind and memory at the time he executed the same both will and codicil
Sworn to in open Court this } Barnabas Barron
2nd day of September 1844 } Thomas Hilley_____________
Attest Wm. B. Nelms, c.c.o.}
Elbert County } After reading & examining the within will & Testament, itt is ordered by the
Court that it be Recorded Attest Wm B Nelms c.c.o.
Recorded the 2nd day of September 1844 Wm. B, Nelms, c.c.o.
Typed exactly as recorded in Will Book A in the Office of the Probate Judge, Susan Sexton, Elbert County Courthouse, Elberton, Georgia
i. ELIZABETH TYNER, b. Abt. 1814, Elbert County, Georgia; d. Elbert County, Georgia; m. WILLIAM HIGGINBOTHAM, August 16, 1849, Elbert County, Georgia; b. Abt. 1814, Elbert County, Georgia; d. Aft. 1870, Franklin County, Georgia.
Notes for WILLIAM HIGGINBOTHAM:
After Eliza Jane Higginbotham died William remarried her sister Elizabeth Tyner D/O of Harris. They and Benjamin moved to Franklin Co, GA. by 1860 and were living on the farm of widowed Nancy Tyner Crump. Mary Ann Tyner was already dead and so was Eliza.
In the 1860, 1870 Franklin Co. Census William Higginbotham is married to Elizabeth which would be right according to marriage records.
121. ii. TOLLISON TYNER, b. Abt. 1795, Elbert County, Georgia, USA; d. Bef. 1855, Hart County, Georgia, USA.
iii. JANE TYNER, b. Abt. 1797, Elbert County, Georgia, USA; d. Aft. 1845; m. JOHN HANSARD, August 18, 1840, Elbert County, Georgia, USA; b. Abt. 1782, Virginia, USA; d. May 03, 1845.
Notes for JANE TYNER:
Jane survived John Hansard. They had no children.
John served as a private in the War of 1812 in Capt. Matthew Phillips Company of Infantry, Georgia Militia. He was married three times, first to a Sarah. Then to Rhoda Hubbard, daughter of Benjamin Hubbard who lived on Long Creek in Wilkes County, Georgia.
iv. MARY ANN TYNER, b. Abt. 1800, Elbert County, Georgia, USA; m. BENJAMIN HIGGINBOTHAM, September 13, 1843, Elbert County, Georgia, USA; b. Abt. 1800.
Name: Higginbotham, Frances D. Popham
Date Of Death: October 24, 1924 Time:
Place Of Death: Franklin Co., GA, Bryant's Dist.
Residence: Lavonia, GA
Gender: Female
Race: W
Age: 72
Marital Status: Widowed
Spouse: Higginbotham, Henry S.
Date Of Birth: August 6, 1853
Place Of Birth: Franklin Co., GA
Mother's Name: Payne, Millie
Mother's Birthplace: Franklin Co.,, GA
Father's Name: Popham, Benjamin F.
Father's Birthplace: Franklin Co., GA
Cause Of Death: Not shown
Hospital: Unavailable
SS Number: Unavailable
Occupation: Unavailable
Funeral Home: C. G. Ray, Lavonia, GA
Doctor: F.N.Wellbon, L.R.
Coroner: Unavailable
Informant: R. L. Higginbotham, Avalon, GA
Date Of Burial: October 25, 1924
Place Of Burial: Mullin (?) Ford
Date Recorded: February 2, 1925
Source Of Record: Online GA Death Certificates
Certificate No.: 38246
Additional Comments:
Although the death certificate shows her name as Francis, her age as 82, and
without a husband's name, a check of census records for several years shows
that she was married to Henry S. Higginbotham by 1880, was living next door to
her mother Milly/Millie Popham and Frances' siblings Elisha, Louisa J. and
Robert D. Popham, along with Henry S. Higginbotham and two children, Levert (?)
F. and Hattie or Hetter L.Higginbotham. Henry S. Higginbotham was shown in the
1860 census of Franklin Co., GA as age 7 in the household of Benjamin
Higginbotham along with his siblings Mealy J. or Jane, age 11, and William
or William Martin, age 9. Benjamin Higginbotham had married Mary Ann Tyner on
30 Sep 1843 in Elbert Co., GA but Mary Ann was not shown in his 1860 Franklin
Co. household. Benjamin was believed to be the brother of William Higginbotham
who had married first in Elbert Co. on 16 May 1841 to Eliza Tyner and second
on 16 Aug 1849 in Elbert Co. to Elizabeth Tyner. The families of William and
Benjamin lived close to each other in Franklin Co. in 1860 and 1870. Their
parents are unknown.
v. CALEB TYNER, b. Abt. 1804, Elbert County, Georgia, USA.
Notes for CALEB TYNER:
Is this he?
1860 - Subdivision 2, Coosa, Alabama
Source Citation: Year: 1860; Census Place: Subdivision 2, Coosa, Alabama; Roll: M653_7; Page: 259; Image: 260
Caleb Tyner...54...GA...farm laborer
Susan A Tyner...31...ga
Sarah A Tyner...8...AL
Emmer F Tyner...8...AL
James C Tyner...4...AL
Richard B Chapman...1...AL
Asberry C Chapman...3... AL
Lucinda Chapman...1/12...AL
122. vi. ELIZA JANE TYNER, b. Abt. 1806, Elbert County, Georgia; d. Abt. 1849, Elbert County, Georgia.
vii. NANCY TYNER, b. Abt. 1808, Elbert County, Georgia, USA; d. March 22, 1911, Franklin County, Georgia, USA; m. ROBERT GREEN CRUMP, January 16, 1846, Elbert County, Georgia; b. Abt. 1781, Stokes County, North Carolina or Pittsylvania County, Virginia?; d. June 10, 1856, Franklin County, Georgia, USA.
viii. MARTHA TYNER, b. Elbert County, Georgia, USA; m. JAMES ANGLIN, May 02, 1806, Jackson County, Georgia, USA; b. Abt. 1784.
Martha Tyner died, possibly in childbirth, and when James Anglin remarried, Daniel emigrated to Tennessee, where his Uncle John Anglin--brother of his father, James Anglin--had emigrated from North Carolina with his family. It was in Williamson that Daniel remarried, living there and in Hickman County, Tennesse. After the birth of George Washington Anglin in 1851, Daniel emigrated to Arkansas.
293....i....DANIEL BENJAMIN ANGLIN, b. 1806, Georgia;
d. Baxter County, Arkansas.
related to John Anglin from North Carolina who moved to Tn. Daniel Benjamin is most likely the son of
Thomas Anglin who lived in Ga but was from Va. He is listed on the Oglethorpe Co. census 1820. We have a descendant of Daniel Benjamin who has done DNA testing and the results show that he isn't from the Ga Anglins (James Ireland 1715 ish) nor is he from the William line who moved to NC before 1800 but is from the Adrian line who started in Va. He is probably from Adrians son John or Johns brother who lived in southern Va. The only John Anglin in NC was the one who moved to SC and then moved to Tn around the time he married his second wife. For better info on the Anglins visit:
homepages.rootsweb.com/~kmparker/AnglinDNA/index.html
you'll find two descedants of Daniel, which is very close to Joshua's who also lived in Tn and was likely
Daniels cousin. John's dna is almost the same as well. It is likely that the Thomas above was a son/grandson of John. He was listed as over 45 in 1820. He probably died before 1830 when Daniel showed up in TN. All the Anglins living in TN in 1830-40 have been accounted for. Thomas and his brother are from the Ga line. The Anglins from the VA line and my line which is group 2 on the DNA list. There is also some discussion floating about that the James Anglin who married Martha Tyner may have been the James who was married to a Martha and living in Ky. The James in Ga also got married around 1807. With two sets of Anglins living in very close proximity it is very easy to get the two confused. Take for example the two william anglins born circa 1733 in Va. These two have been confused
over the years because they grew up about 10 miles apart. One moved to Greenbrier Va-WVa, the other to Caswell NC. Both had sons named John. DNA put my A13 line where it belonged. We were at a paper tral end so to speak, but dna opened the road to much more info than we ever thought possible. As you will notice, group 2 is tied into the Irish Anglins much more than the James from Ireland line. We suspect that he was either adopted or a bastard child or a different strain of anglins in Ireland.
Mr Bob Anglin
8/20/2007
From: Mr Bob Anglin (dncnref at yahoo.com)
Sent: Sun 5/11/08 7:52 PM
Jane
There are three Anglin line in 1800. The families of Adrian Anglin b 1693 who arrive in 1721 as an
indentured servant.
William Anglin b 1659 arrived 1689 in Maryland and had three sons william, John and Cornelius. One of these three is the father of William Anglin who died in Caswell NC.
James Anglin b abt 1715 in Ireland married Mary Lindsay and moved to America and had 7 sons as per his only daughter.
Daniel Benjamin b 1806 Ga. died Baxter Co Ar married Sarah/Sallie unknown.
James Anglin married Martha Tyner.
James Anglin in Ga gets married in 1807 and has a wonderful life and family but is not at all related to
Daniel Benjamin.
Daniel Benjamin is from the Adrian anglin line as per DNA results so toss out the data as per him being the grandson of Henry.
A James Anglin who has a wife Martha live in Tn and also live in the same Area where Daniel Benjamin first appears. This James is born in Va. Daniel later says his father was born in Va. This James is from the Adrian Anglin line.
1820 Oglethorpe co census there is a Thomas Anglin bor before 1777. Too old to be a grandson of James. He disappears. A Thomas and a David born in Ga are found in Tn in 1840 with families. They are from the James and Mary line but nobody has them listed on family sheets. Only 4-5 sons of James are documented, Thomas is not listed as one but probably is. Or he went to Ga for the land that was given Rev soldiers. He is in the land lotteries. There is also a widow Anglin living in Oglethorpe. This might be the wife of one of James' missing sons.
My thoughts, without any proof, is that James Anglin went to Ga, married Martha and moved to TN. Raised Daniel along with at least one other son who could likely be the Phillip born in Tn 1809 and also from the Adrian line and has nearly matching DNA. Only tests from other sons of Phillip and Daniel will prove how close they actually are. There is a Phillip b in Ga in 1803 also living in Tn but I dont think we have a DNA test from his line yet.
DNA has certainly opened the eyes to many folks who thought they were from one place when they were
actually from somewhere else.
One a side note. William Anglin b 1659 has ties to Ireland. There are current Anglins living in county
Cork who match DNA. Adrian Anglin also has a match to Ireland. So it looks like all three are from there and unrelated. There was an Anglin "clan" in County Cork around 1500. We know from Scottish clans that not all from one clan have the same DNA. They just took on the name of the clan they lived under or rented from.
Bob Anglin
Oh'Angluinn the celtic variation.
I would suspect that Hanglin matches DNA as well.
ix. PERMELIA TYNER, b. 1812, Elbert County, Georgia, USA; m. ? FINN.
Web Site http://www.ij.net/pc-geeks/gedcom/index/ind0100.html
Information on the above family member was provided by Lewis A Wood 215 Le Grand Blvd Greenville, SC 29607
Priscilla Tyner age [26-45]
1 Male " " [18-26]
3 Females " " [10-16]
2 Males " " [0-10]
1 Female " " [1-10]
123. i. MEMORY TYNER, b. Abt. 1795, Georgia, USA; d. Abt. 1830, Mississippi, USA.
ii. MARY TYNER, b. Abt. 1805.
iii. ARYKY TYNER, b. Abt. 1809; m. HENRY DAVIDSON.
iv. SALLY TYNER, b. Abt. 1809; m. WILLIAM TERRILL.
124. v. THOMAS R. TYNER, b. November 05, 1811, Montgomery Co, Tennessee, USA; d. April 19, 1887, Crittendon County, Kentucky, USA.
125. vi. PETER W. TYNER, b. Abt. 1813, Montgomery County, Tennessee, USA.
vii. PRISCILLA TYNER, b. Abt. 1815; m. JOHN PARKER.
Three Federal Census for her age establishes her birth year as 1780. Richard Tyner's prior wife was killed in Mar 1779 by Indians after the Battles of Kettle Creek. He must have immediately married again for Elizabeth to be born in 1780. 1850 Federal Census Western District Pickens County SC, 1860 Federal Census White Hall P.O. Pickens District SC. 1860 Pickens Dist SC Federal Census she is living with her son Abner; she is not in the 1870 Census.
i. DRUSILLA BOATRIGHT, m. ? DAVIDSON.
ii. FRANCES BOATRIGHT, b. Georgia, USA; m. GEORGE LOWERY.
iii. SHIRLEY BOATRIGHT.
iv. WILLIAM BOATRIGHT.
126. v. NANCY LILES BOATRIGHT, b. Abt. 1802, Georgia, USA; d. Aft. August 28, 1886, Carnesville, Franklin County, Georgia, USA.
127. vi. RUTH BOATRIGHT, b. 1804; d. 1861.
128. vii. ABNER BOATRIGHT, b. July 28, 1807, South Carolina, USA; d. November 15, 1901, South Carolina, USA.
129. viii. CHARITY BOATRIGHT, b. Abt. 1814, Georgia, USA.
130. ix. MARY BOATRIGHT, b. Abt. 1815, South Carolina; d. Aft. 1870, Saline, Pulaski County, Arkansas.
131. x. ELIZABETH BOATRIGHT, b. January 14, 1817, Elbert County, Georgia, USA; d. McNairy County, Tennessee, USA.
132. xi. SARAH BOATRIGHT, b. October 23, 1826, Habersham County, Georgia, USA.
Thompson McGuire and Frances Tyner had 10 children, 5 boys and 5 girls. The only children that have been confirmed are Riley McGuire, David McGuire , Frederick McGuire and Elisa McGuire. Frances Tyner McGuire died after 1840 as she is in the 1840 Census.
On 21 December 1823, Frederick [McGuire] purchased 700 acres in Jackson County from Dempsey and Obedience Tiner (more at the end of the article) of Hamilton County, Tennessee. The Tiners had moved to Tennessee around 1809. Curiously, Dempsey Tiner sells exactly the same property to a Thompson McGuire on 2 June 1828, without any mention of Frederick. However, Frederick, without any mention of Thompson, then sold this exact same land on 5 December 1829! (The Tiner deed to Thompson McGuire, however, could be fraudulent, part of a scheme by Frederick to protect the land from Frederick's creditors.) --per RESEARCH IN NATIVE AMERICAN ROOTS: THE MCGUIRES, BURTONS, DURHAMS AND TYNERS OF HALL COUNTY by Robert S. Davis, Jr., director, Family and Regional History Program, Wallace State College, Hanceville, AL 35077-2000
I am looking for of the 10 Children of Thompson McWire and his wife's name. The last record that I have of Thompson McWire in in Campbell Co., in 1840 This man leave such a paper trail, that surely that there are some records of his family. THOMPSON McGUIRE Time line Dates General Notes 1760-1770 born between these dates (from 1830 & 1840 census in Campbell Co.) 1775 born before 1775 (from 1820 census in Hall Co.) 1790 in Wilkes Co., GA Thompson McWyre Franklin 1790 287 1/2 H 23 1793 received land from Alleghaney McGuire in Elbert Co., GA 1795 Thompson McWier Franklin 200 KKKK 929 1794-1802 Three male sons & one daughter born to Thompson. (from 1820 census in Hall Co.) 1795 David McWire born 1799 bought land in Jackson Co., GA 1800 Rylee McGuire born 1802-1804 one male son and two daughters born to Thompson (from 1820 census in Hall Co.) 1804 Feb. 4 Deed Book "OO"page 211: William Varnell and wife Elizabeth (X), to James Garner, and David Morgan jointly. $1500. 200 acres on the middle fork of Broad River adjoining Jacob Hollingswroth, and . . . . . Yarbrough. Tract was granted March 5, 1795 to Thompson McWeir. Also, at the same time, 100 acres adjoining Nath'l. William and Nase Meeks; also 300 acres adjoining the first two tracts and land of Jacob White.Wits: Jas. Andrews, James Smith. Recorded July 15 1804 1805 Georgia Land Lottery Thompson Maguire 1180 B B Jackson Co Frederick Maguire 1191 B Jackson Co 1805 resident of Jackson Co., GA along with Frederick McGuire 1807 sued for being on land in Jackson Co., GA belonging to French Admiral Comte d' Estaing for services in the Revolutionary War. Frederick was also sued 1807. April 18 Deed Book "T" Franklin page 199-200., JONATHAN PARR of Jackson County to Thompson McGuire of "said state and county". $600.00. Conveys 400 acres on fork of Bluestone Creek, being part of 3000 acres claimed by Lewis Sewell and deeded by him to said Parr. Wits: Sherod Thompson, David McCurdy J.P 1807 September 11 page 200.,. Thompson McGuire of Jackson Co. Ga., to Thomas Bailey of York District S.C. $600.00 Conveys the 400-acre tract.Witnesses: William Cleghorn and John Jinkins J.P.Recorded August 5, 1811 1807 land Lottery of Georgia Militia District Lot No. Dist. No. County Elbert County Thompson Magwier Henderson's 140 14 Wilkinson Co 1809 had a son Frederick S. McGuire 1810 in same district as Shelton, David, and Frederick McGuire - Jackson Co., GA 1810-1820 one male son & one daughter born to Thompson (from 1820 census in Hall Co.) 1817 sold Jackson Co., GA land for taxes 1817 3 July Lived in Jackson County, GA with the Cherokee Indians per the letter of Hugh Montgomery, an Indian agent.1820 Hall Co., GA census 1822 Tax defaulters list of Hall Co., GA 1824 Tax defaulters list of Hall Co., GA 1827 The Land Lottery of Georgia in 31th Day's drawing - April 11 Gwinnett: Thompson McGuire, soldier Davis 53 2 3 - while in Jackson 1827 Won a land lot, in the GA land lottery, for being a War of 1812 veteran 1828 , Dec 5 21 Dec 1823, Frederick purchased 700 acres in Jackson County from Dempsey and Obedience Tiner of Hamilton Co., Tn. The Tiner had moved to Tn around 1809. Dempsey Tiner sell exactly the same property to Thompson McGuire 2 June 1;828, with any mention of Frederick. However, Frederick, without any mention of Thompson, then sold this exact same land on 5 Dec 1829. 1830 Campbell Co. census pp 202 1832 Gold Lottery of Georgia Thomson McGuire dist 16 section 2 lot# 1237 Jackson County McGuire, Thompson militia dist.. Miller landlot # 914 Dist. 2, Section 1 1838 29 Dec Bk p. 583 Thompson McGuire from Henry Brocks (Cow.Co.) #.101 1/4 acres 9D, Lot 18.(Henry Brocks marries Locky McWire,7 Feb 1825 in Hall Co. Bk. 1819-1840. Could be Thompson's Daughter.) 1838 -5 April sold the 1827 lottery land while he resided in Campbell Co., GA at that time 1839 6 January Book C, 1831 - 1842 Campbell Co. page 334: Thompson McGuire, for $50, sold Tilman D. McGuire, part of Lot 18, North District of originally Coweta Co., boundaries commencing with a line from the North line of the Lot, where a branch crosses, near the Brick yard, etc., toward mouth of John Brocks Spring Branch when it enters the large Branch on Lot 7. Wit: A.R. Bomar, Joel? Yates, J.P. 1840 Federal Census of Campbell Co., GA page 34 records his birth as c1760-1770
133. i. DAVID MCGUIRE, b. Abt. 1795, Elbert County, Georgia; d. Abt. 1835, South Carolina.
ii. PATSY MCGUIRE, b. Abt. 1797; m. WILLIAM H. HILLEY, May 10, 1812, Elbert County, Georgia.
134. iii. RILEY LEE MCGUIRE, b. February 05, 1800, Wilkes County, Georgia; d. April 03, 1884, Poplar Springs, Carroll County, Georgia.
iv. ELISA MCGUIRE, b. Abt. 1804, Georgia.
v. FREDERICK MCGUIRE, b. Abt. 1809, Georgia; m. FRANCES CARBEAU; b. Abt. 1810.
http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ga/oglethorpe/newspapers/mcguire.txt
1798/04/28 Georgia,(L.S) Oglethorpe country By Matthew Rainey Esq. Register of Probates for said county. Whereas LYDIA GOOLSBY and ISAAC GOOLSBY, have applied to me for letter of administration on the estate of DANIEL GOOLSBY, late of this county, deceased. These are therefore to cite and admonish all and singular the kindred and creditors of said deceased to be appear at my office, on or before the 28th day of May next, to show cause if any they have, why letter of administration should not be granted. Given under my hand and seal, at my office the 28th day of April 1798; and in the 22nd year of the Independence of the United States of America.(This family daugher married Frederick McGuire, the son of Thompson.)
James Crittenden married Abigail Tiner, daughter of Richard Tiner of Georgia. James and Abigail lived in Montgomery County, Tennessee around 1810 according to census. Also in McNairy County, Tennessee on 1820 Census. 1840 Federal Census Franklin County [GA?]. 1850 Federal Census Franklin County AL James Crittenden could have been born in Georgia, South Carolina, or Southampton Co, Virginia.
James Crittenden appears on the 1817 Emigration Roll.
"Those Who Cried - The 16,000" by James W. Tyner, pub. 1974
Ahmacolola River, Lumpkin County, Georgia
Page 52 - James Crittenden - 7 full blood, 1 quarter blood, 4 farmers, 4 farms, 1 slave, 2 spinners
i. ELIZABETH CRITTENDON, b. Abt. 1803, Georgia; d. Abt. 1860.
ii. THOMAS CRITTENDON, b. Abt. 1805, Georgia; d. October 21, 1881, Colbert County, Georgia; m. MOLLY A. JONES.
135. iii. RICHARD OSCAR CRITTENDON, b. Abt. 1807, Elbert County, Georgia; d. Bet. 1850 - 1860.
iv. JAMES G. CRITTENDON, b. Abt. 1817, Tennessee; d. Abt. 1870, Lauderdale County, Alabama; m. LUCINDA ?, Abt. 1836, Franklin County, Alabama.
v. WILLIAM CRITTENDON, b. Abt. 1820, Tennessee; d. Abt. 1880, Colbert County, Alabama; m. ELIZABETH M. DEVINE, June 05, 1838, Lawrence County, Alabama.
vi. RILEY J. CRITTENDON, b. Abt. 1825, Tennessee; d. January 07, 1907, Colbert County, Alabama; m. MARTHA J. BERTWELL.
By 1790 Robert Crump was in Stokes Co., NC which is just across the state line. In about 1806 he moved to Franklin Co., GA where he spent the rest of his life. He died there 6/10/1856. He was "Justce of the Inferior Court" in Franklin Co. from 1837 to 1841.
Tom A. Crump
Query: Agnes Tyner was probably at least half Cherokee and was born about 1780/90. In about 1804 she married Robert Crump, who later became a judge in Franklin County Ga. By 1846 Agnes had disappeared and Robert married her niece Nancy Tyner. Everyone assumes that Agnes had died by that time, but that assumption may not be correct. An old aunt told me that Robert "ran Agnes off" so he could marry Nancy and that Agnes went to live with the Cherokees and may have died in MS. Everything else that lady told me has been proven true. It sounds as if Agnes may have began the trip to IT, but didn't make it.
i. MARTHA CRUMP, b. Bet. 1805 - 1808, Franklin County, Georgia; d. September 1884, Little Mills Valley, Etowah County, Alabama; m. JOHN BOWLES YEARGIN, Abt. 1825.
136. ii. WILLIAM BETHEL CRUMP, b. Abt. 1807, Franklin County, Georgia, USA; d. October 22, 1871, Etowah County, Alabama, USA.
137. iii. CHARITY CRUMP, b. Abt. 1809, Franklin County, Georgia, USA; d. August 15, 1885, Etowah County, Alabama, USA.
138. iv. RUTHA CRUMP, b. Bet. 1810 - 1813, Franklin County, Georgia, USA; d. Bet. 1870 - 1875, Catossa County, Georgia, USA.
139. v. MEMORY WALKER CRUMP, b. April 13, 1811, Franklin County, Georgia, USA; d. March 06, 1897, Wynnewood, Garvin Co, Indian Territory.
vi. BETHEL CRUMP, b. Abt. 1812.
140. vii. CLARY LILES CRUMP, b. September 18, 1814, Franklin County, Georgia, USA; d. Abt. 1887, Etowah County, Alabama, USA.
141. viii. MARY ANN CRUMP, b. Abt. 1816, Franklin County, Georgia, USA.
142. ix. AGNES G. CRUMP, b. Abt. 1820, Franklin County, Georgia, USA; d. Aft. 1862, DeKalb County, Alabama, USA.
143. x. JAMES TYNER CRUMP, b. Abt. 1821, Franklin County, Georgia; d. Aft. 1880, Franklin County, Texas.
xi. PRISCILLA CRUMP, b. Abt. 1825, Franklin County, Georgia.
1806 - Richard Tyner Jr had 1 draw in GA land lottery
1815 - Richard Tyner Jr on Tax list in Elbert Co, GA
1820 Census of Franklin Co., GA - Richard Tyner is listed as Richard Tinen instead of Tyner.
1820 Census Franklin Co, GA
.........TINER, Richard (M-arried) (50-60)
.........Males = 1 (0-5) 1 (5-10)
.........Females - 1 (5-10); 1 (10-15); 1 (15-20) wife (40-50)
.........Lived next door to a Harman family
.........E.......Tyner Age 57...F [nee Harmon] [Probably Elizabeth]
.........T......."... " 27...M [Could be a Thomas]
.........M.A.... "... " 25...F [Could be a Mary Ann]
.........M...... "... " 23...F [Could be Matilda]
.........J......."... " 21...M [Could be James Edward]
.........U......."... " 19...M
.........M......."... " 17...F...[Could be Martha]
.........L................ "... " 14...M...[Could be Lucas]
.........[This household lived next to a Harmon Family]
.........Name in parentheses are guesses because the transcriber used initials only.
.........Elizabeth [Harmon] Tyner...age...60 F [Wife of Richard]
.........Mary............... "......"... 20 F
.........Matilda............ "......"... 18 F
.........Lucas............... "... "... 18 M [Farmhand]
.........Edward............... "......"...22 M [Shoemaker]
.........[This is same family as above in 1850 Census but ages are different]
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
Elisebeth TYNER Self W Female W 85 GA Keeping House GA GA
Mary TYNER Dau S Female W 70 GA Works In Factory GA GA
Martha TYNER Dau S Female W 52 GA Works In Factory GA GA
Lucious TYNER Son S Male W 50 GA Works In Factory GA GA
Family History Library Film 1254151 NA Film Number T9-0151 Page Number 612D
i. MARTHA TYNER, b. Abt. 1832.
Martha never married.
iii. LUCIOUS TYNER, b. Abt. 1836, Georgia.
iv. MARY TYNER, b. Abt. 1838, Georgia.
Mary never married.
ELBERT CO., GEORGIA
Mayfield Bird to Martha B. Tyner on Feb. 7, 1818 or 1813
144. i. JOHN BIRD, b. Abt. 1812, Franklin County, Georgia.
145. ii. MARY H. MARTHA BIRD, b. Abt. 1817, Franklin County, Georgia, USA; d. Abt. 1878.
iii. HESTER ANN AMANDA BIRD, b. Abt. 1818, Franklin County, Georgia.
iv. ELIJAH BIRD, b. Abt. 1820, Franklin County, Georgia; d. Aft. 1860, Louisiana.
Charity and Billings Bird were both dead at the return of Richard Tyner's Will in 1826. Their children are listed as heirs of Charity and Billings Bird in Richard Tyner's Will in 1824. Namely - Sarah Bird, Martha Bird, Nancy Bird, and Mary Bird. Their guardian was Elijah Bird in a 1826 Settlement of Richard Tyner's Will. But a descendant of Sarah notes that Billings and Charity appeared in the 1830 census, living with Elijah!
i. SARAH BIRD.
Sarah F. Bird, daughter of Billings and Charity, was the second wife of John Parker and married in 1849 in DeKalb Co, GA. They are my g-g-grandparents. She further states that Billings & Charity were not dead at the time of Richard Tyner's will when their children were named as orphans. They both appear on the 1830 Census of DeKalb Co, GA along with Billings brothers John & Elijah. Their parents were Solomon Bird and Nancy Britt from Edgefield Co, SC.
iii. NANCY BIRD.
iv. MARY BIRD.
146. v. VALERY BIRD, b. Abt. 1835, Dekalb County, Georgia; d. May 10, 1916, Lindsay, Oklahoma.
> Information on this family member was provided by Sue Barnes
> Broderbund FTM CD #228 Marriage Index: IL, Indiana, 1790-1850-
> Tyner, James Spouse: Reed, Zillah
> Marriage Date: March 10 1817
> Wayne County, Indiana
>
> Broderbund FTM Census microfilm indiana 1850 CD #302
> [copies of actual census pages]
> 1850 Census Fayette Co IN - Harrison Twp
> 79-82
> James TYNER 54 Farmer $2500 KY
> Druzilla 56 Female SC
> Amanda 20 IN
> James 15 Farmer IN
> Alexander 12 IN
> Theodore 8 IN
>
> Broderbund FTM CD #304 Census Indiana 1860
> [transcribed census]
> 1860 Census Wabash Co, IN - Liberty Twp - Largo PO - page 435
> 1454 - 1454
> James TYNER 25 Farmer $1200 - $400 born IN
> Elizabeth 21 Housewife PA
> George 6/12 IN
> John CLUPEPPER 23 Laborer born PA
>
> Same page - two houses away
> 1456 - 1456
> James TYNER 64 $2000 - $3000 born KY
> Hillae 67 Housewife born SC
> Theodore 19 Laborer IN
> "Someone else read and transcribed this 1860 Census. Bet the female is `Zilla' instead of Hillae but would want to see the actual handwriting. THis certainly appears to be the James Tyner that married Elizabeth CLUPPER and probably is parents living nearby.
>
> CHILD 4 Mary "Polly" T TYNER-8960
> CHILD 5 Mehitabel "Hetty" TYNER-8962
> CHILD 6 Thomas T TYNER-8964
> Information on the above family member was provided by
> Margaret DeForeest mdefor at nwlink.com
> My source for the family of Thomas and Ezilpha:
> Tyner Bible Record;
> Shelby Co, Indianan Marriages;
> Federal Census Reocrds;
> Marshall Co. Genealogical Society, Plymouth, Indiana.
> Information on Thomas T Tyner and family was from a copy of pages in the bible that was in the possession of my grandmother, who was the daughter of Thomas' son William W. Tyner.
> I am a descendant of Thomas Tyner, one of the founders of Tyner City, Marshall Co, Indiana.
>
> CHILD 7 Elizabeth T TYNER-8966
> CHILD 8 Abarilla "Biller" TYNER-13716
> CHILD 9 Susan TYNER-8968
> CHILD 10 Harrison TYNER-13718
>
>Records of: Dennis Ward 4608 NE Euclid Avenue Lawton OK 73507-6109
>1-580-355-3602
Buried one mile north of Morristown, Shelby Co. IN, as is Richard.
147. i. NANCY TYNER, b. Abt. 1793, Abbeville District, South Carolina?; d. Abt. 1835.
148. ii. WILLIAM TYNER, b. February 02, 1795, Abbeville District, South Carolina, USA; d. Bef. 1827, Blue River Twp., Hancock Co., Indiana, USA.
149. iii. JAMES T. TYNER, b. April 25, 1796, Kentucky, USA; d. March 28, 1880, Liberty Township, LaFountain, Wabash County, Indiana, USA.
150. iv. MARY T. TYNER, b. April 08, 1797, Kentucky; d. October 12, 1891, Blue River Twp., Hominy Ridge, Greenfield, Hancock County, IN.
151. v. MEHITABEL TYNER, b. September 1798; d. February 06, 1877, Noblesville, Hamilton County, Indiana, USA.
152. vi. THOMAS T. TYNER, b. June 08, 1800, Abbeville District, South Carolina, USA; d. October 18, 1880, Tyner City, Marshall County, Indiana, USA.
153. vii. ELIZABETH T. TYNER, b. February 02, 1802, Abbeville District, South Carolina; d. May 22, 1890, Hancock County, Indiana.
154. viii. ABARILLA TYNER, b. January 01, 1804, Scott County, Kentucky, USA; d. October 05, 1879.
155. ix. SUSAN TYNER, b. 1807; d. August 07, 1890, Greenfield, Hancock County, Indiana.
156. x. HARRISON TYNER, b. June 08, 1814, Scott County, Kentucky, USA; d. November 22, 1903, Mason, Effingham County, Illinois, USA.
William Tyner was a Baptist, buried at the Baptist Meeting House Southwest of Greensburg, IN. His nickname was "Dover."
Source Citation: Year: 1850; Census Place: Sand Creek, Decatur, Indiana; Roll: M432_142; Page: 154; Image: 311.
Tyner, William...79...SC...farmer...$3000
...Nancy...52...KY
...William W. ...15...KY
Lakington, William...18...KY...laborer
DeWeese, Emily...15...IN
"On the 18th of March 1802, the families of William Tyner and Abraham Hackleman became brothers-in-law for each married the other's sister. They then started by packhorse to the new country of Kentucky, being the first of the four families to leave the neighborhood in the Abbeville District.
.....They came the immigrant route over Clinchhuts, past the crab orchards to Georgetown, Scott County, Kentucky. After a journey of five long weeks they stopped to make that country their home, but William Tyner and family soon moved to Ohio where he organized and established the first Baptist church in that state, their next move was to Brookville, Indiana. They joined the Baptist Church there, build in 1812, three miles from town.
.....They spent the remainder of their lives there and were buried in the churchyard...that cemetery was eventually abandoned and many bodies were removed to Brookville Cemetery but a monument still stands to mark the graves of William Tyner and wife. The old church has been taken over by the Indiana Historical Society."
INDIAN CREEK BAPTIST CHURCH
"The Regular Baptist Church of Christ" on Indian Creek was "constituted on July 28, 1810; by Elders Joshua Palmore, Moses Frazy, and William Tyner; number of members 22 . . ."
...Two itinerant Baptist preachers, famous for their work in the early days of the North West Territory served this church well. Elder William Tyner of Brookville, Indiana, a man "of rare worth and a natural born orator" moderated the first meeting of the Church in the cabin of John Morris. That July day Elder Tyner rode horse-back through the dense forest up along the White Water River to the mouth of Big Cedar Creek up that creek, across a divide to Indian Creek. While Elder Tyner was watering his horse in Big Cedar Creek, he saw an Indian with drawn bow on opposite bank, with arrow pointed at Tyner's heart. Elder Tyner stared "for an eternity" before the Indian lowered his bow andmelted into the forest.
"...The new settlers met in cabins fro their first church services. The Regular Baptists as early as 1809 had invited Elder William Tyner of Brookville, Indiana to preach to them on Saturdays and Sundays. He had come into the White Water Valley in 1800 and by 1805 had a church started on the Little Cedar Creek, south of Brookville. This became the Mother Church of the White Water Association. On July 28, 1810, he moderated the meeting at which was organized The Indian Creek Church in the cabin of John Morris (great grandfather of Mrs. Ellis Abbot of Reilly).”
...From Elder Tyner’s own account of his trip to Reilly, we learn that he rode through the forest, following the White Water River to the mouth of the Big Cedar Creek and followed that creek until he arrived just west of his destination on Indian Creek. Stopping to let his horse drink in Big Cedar creek, he saw an Indian standing motionless on the opposite bank with drawn bow, the arrow pointed at his heart. Unarmed, as there were so few Indians in this area in 1810, the Elder stared at the Indian, trying not to show his fright, but he said it seemed an eternity before the Indian lowered his bow and melted away
into the forest.
...Arriving at the cabin of John Morris, he found many members of the Baptist faith. From the original minute books, we have the following account written in ink by Abraham Lee, surveyor, charter member and the first writing clerk: “The Regulars Baptist Church of Christ on Indian Creek was constituted on the
28th day of July 1810 by Elders Joshua Palmore, Moses Frazy, and William Tyner, number of members, 22."
Greensburg, Decatur Co., Indiana**
The following obituary, as seen from the dates, represents the circumstances under which men preached the Gospel a half century ago and refers to the father of Mrs. Abner Stout
Died....at his residence in Decatur County, Indiana, September the 18th, 1854, in the 84th year of his ministry, Elder William Tyner.....born in Abbeyville District, S.C, the 9th day of April 1771....in 1796 was licensed to preach the Gospel....in 1802, he....removed to Scott County, Ky...On the 31st day of March 1805, he arrived...on the Little Cedar Grove....nearly two miles below Brookville.
Pg 12-14
" A man by name of Brown settled on the farm where the widow Ray burn now lives, from which originated he name Brown's Hill."
Jan. 7, 1811 - William McDonald and Ruth Gregg by William Tyner."
Pg 52 - William Tyner, preacher at Little Cedar -(Little Cedar Church located 3 mile south of Brookville on the Little Cedar Creek.)
township 9, range 2. then came the following land entries: William Arnett, ......... Solomon Tyner, November 30.....all in the year 1804.
1805 - James Adair
1806 - Abraham Hackleman
1807 - Solomon Tyner , an additional tract.
Franklin Co. Indiana Probate Order Book 21, pg 171
...John Rayburn and William Tyner were granted letters testamentary on the estate of John Lefforge, deceased, and filed a bond of $1000, with Richard Tyner as their security April 28, 1834.
...The Will was dated April 4, 1834 and witnessed by John M. Johnston, Nathaniel Hammond, and G. A. Moriarty. John mentions his wife Mary (Smith*), all of his children, his sons Lewis and Charles, minors. No other heirs were mentioned.
...An inventory and appraisement of the personal property was brought into court May 13, 1834 valued at $771, and included two peacock plows, a windmill and the usual other farm and household items of that time. A sale bill of the personal property was also filed with John Hedley, clerk at the sale.
...William, Jacob, Mary and John Lefforge, Jesse Winship, Thomas Shank’s wife (Sarah J. "Sary" Lefforge*), Reuben Hankins (Haukins*) and J. M. Johnston as guardians received sums in the final settlement of this estate. Feb. 1836.
Elizabeth Hackleman was a Baptist. On August 2, 1810, she was bur. in Old Brick Meeting House Cemetery 2 mi. below Brookville, Franklin, IN.R.I.P. Rest In Pieces
Grandma Goes To Court
.....A very pregnant Elizabeth “Betsy” Hackleman Tyner, our ancestor, climbed aboard a packhorse in Abbeville, SC in 1802 and set out for Kentucky and the Indiana Territory. Tagging along were five children under age eight . The sixth baby would arrive two days after arrival in Kentucky. In 1810, at age 36, and after bearing nine children, she was the first to be buried in what would become Little Cedar Grove Baptist cemetery and one of the early burials in Franklin County. A fieldstone at the far end of the grave yard, with the carved initials 'ET', is believed to mark the actual grave. Sometime after 1820, members of the family commissioned a more elaborate memorial marker which, as of this writing, now leans against a wall inside the old Little Cedar Grove Baptist church. It reads 'Sacred to the memory of Elizabeth, wife of William Tyner, who departed this life August 2nd, 1810 Aged 30 years and 3 days.' (Actually she was 36). The relief carving, about four feet high may be the work of Abraham Voris, a noted stone carver of the day. This account describes the part Betsy’s grave marker played in the murder of Monica Lemen in 1987 .
.....On Valentines Day, 1987, two young boys decided to explore the creek just below Little Cedar Baptist Church while the grown-ups attended to last minute preparations for a romantic wedding to be held in the historic old church.
.....While wandering along the creek bed the boys came upon two freshly severed legs stuck into a pair of fancy cowgirl boots laced with fringe.
.....Meanwhile, inside the old church, last minute preparations were made. Items of odd character had to be cleared from the minister's pulpit before the ceremony could begin They must have been left behind by youthful pranksters. Discovery of the severed legs surely dampened the festivities.
.....The Connersville Barracks of the State Police began by checking for missing persons in the area. It became obvious the legs belonged to a "big girl," so many missing girls were eliminated. A Cincinnati father had reported his daughter missing on February 10. The police traced the boots to the shop where they were sold and the name of the buyer matched the missing girl.
.....Monica Denise Lemen, age 21, had been a member of a satanic cult of devil worshippers. The police collected information and narrowed the suspects to John Lee Fryman, age 24, known as a satanic priest. He was living in a trailer at Fairfield, Ohio with Beverly Cox of Dearborn County Indiana.
.....Fryman was a satanic priest. Monica had been a follower but had left his group for another. By one account she was "bad mouthing" Fryman and his ability as a priest. Another account said she had romantic inclinations and Fryman was tired of being “pestered”. Besides he already had a trailer-mate, Beverly Cox.
.....Fryman decided to solve his pest problem. He lured Monica to his trailer and, with his girl friend present, shot Monica in the back of the head as she knelt at the 'altar'. This happened about February 9, 1987. He drained the body of blood and left it in the trailer for several days until he decided how to dispose of it.
.....Monica's body was too large for the back of his small Pinto, so he sawed off her legs about eight inches below the body. He disposed of the torso in a dumpster somewhere east of Fairfield. He intended to dispose of the legs in the dumpster at the IGA in Brookville, but decided to throw them over the bank behind the old church "to desecrate the church." Had he put the legs in the dumpster at the IGA store, Monica would probably have been a missing person and her murder might not have been known. According to classmate, Donovan Blose, a retired police captain in Richmond Indiana, “they dug up half the Rumpke Waste landfill in Cincinnati and never did find her top half”. In this instance, half a body was better than none.
.....Fryman became aware that the police were looking for him and left home for Richmond, to borrow money from relatives. While fleeing Richmond, he was stopped up by the State Police west of Centerville, IN on U.S. 40 on a parole violation and carrying a handgun with no permit.
.....In searching Fryman's trailer for evidence, the police and Cincinnati investigators,found Grandma Betsy’s tombstone had been used as an altar. Everything in the room was painted black. Remains of sacrificed animals were found on the altar along with a shell casing from the murder weapon.
.....The group had used the inside of the old church for its devil worship. Traces of blood were found but it’s uncertain whether it was human or animal. At least on one occasion, passersby reported dim lights inside. Investigation might not have been prudent.
.....Mick Wilz, a member of the Franklin County Historical Association, learned that the police in Hamilton Ohio had Betsy’s gravestone stone and needed help to trace it back to the old brick church. Jenny and Mick Wilz had been married in that same church and had their picture taken next to the stone on their wedding day in June, 1980. He called the Police in Hamilton Ohio and told them of his picture that might help. Within an hour the Indiana police were ringing his doorbell. Since the murder actually took place across the state line in Ohio, the trial would be held in Butler County.
.....Mr. Wilz was called to testify in Hamilton and sat in the court house hallway for three days. It took less than a minute to connect the church, the legs and Elizabeth Hackleman Tyner’s grave marker to the Monica’s murder. The black wax symbols on the gravestone proved to be vital evidence.
.....Fryman’s girl friend was given immunity and added information which led to a murder conviction He was sentenced to the penitentiary near Lebanon, Ohio. During a prison riot some years later, he was badly beaten by black Muslims who hate satanic priests. The girl friend was sent to England to avoid threats by members of the satanic cult.
.....Two years after the trial, Grandma Betsy’s gravestone was released from custody and allowed to go home and rest in peace. Monica was not so fortunate.
.....And Mick Wilz never got back his wedding pictures.
Other researchers say her name was Nancy Jane Black.
157. i. HARRIS TYNER, b. December 26, 1795, Little River, Abbeville County, South Carolina, USA; d. January 21, 1881, Brightwood, Marion County, Indiana, USA.
158. ii. MARY ANNE TYNER, b. January 13, 1796, Abbeville District, South Carolina; d. January 07, 1864, Fayette County, Indiana, USA.
159. iii. ELIJAH TYNER, b. March 21, 1797, Abbeville District, South Carolina, USA; d. February 01, 1872, Hancock County, Indiana, USA.
160. iv. RICHARD TYNER, b. November 03, 1798, Abbeville District, South Carolina, USA; d. April 02, 1868, Brookville, Franklin County, Indiana, USA.
161. v. JOHN N. TYNER, b. August 18, 1800, Little River, Abbeville District, South Carolina, USA; d. February 04, 1871, LaFontaine, Wabash, Indiana, USA.
162. vi. MELINDA TYNER, b. March 21, 1802, Georgetown, Scott County, Kentucky, USA; d. October 17, 1879, Decatur County, Indiana, USA.
163. vii. SOLOMON TYNER, b. January 13, 1805, Georgetown, Scott County, Kentucky, USA; d. October 08, 1830, Franklin County, Indiana, USA.
164. viii. EZEKIEL TYNER, b. December 04, 1806, Cedar Grove, Highland Township, Franklin County, Indiana, USA; d. January 21, 1879, Morristown, Hancock County, Indiana, USA.
165. ix. SILAS TYNER, b. April 01, 1808, Brookville, Franklin, Indiana, USA; d. April 06, 1853, Cincinnati, Hamilton, Ohio, USA.
166. x. JANE TYNER, b. April 21, 1813, Brookville, Franklin County, Indiana; d. August 15, 1861.
167. xi. NANCY TYNER, b. March 30, 1815, Brookville, Franklin County, Indiana; d. August 15, 1861, Clinton County, Indiana.
xii. MARTHA TYNER, b. May 04, 1817, Brookville, Franklin County, Indiana; d. 1840.
168. xiii. ELIZABETH TYNER, b. June 08, 1819, Brookville, Franklin County, Indiana, USA; d. September 27, 1864, Decatur County, Indiana, USA.
169. xiv. WILLIAM JASPER TYNER, b. January 12, 1822, Brookville, Franklin County, Indiana, USA; d. July 04, 1900, Tipton County, Indiana, USA.
Jonathan's Will Dated 17 NOV 1811
Event: Will Proved 2 MAR 1812
Will was signed Nov. 17, 1811 and probated March 2,1812. It names wife and children.
WILL: A deciphered Photostat copy of a will of Jonathan KOLB, and the probated record attached hereto, are recorded in the Office of the Ordinary in Jefferson County, Seat of Jackson County, Georgia,
.....In the name of God, Amen, the seventeenth of November, in the year of our Lord, one thousand eight hundred and eleven, I, Jonathan Kolb of Jackson County, State of Georgia, being under my disposition of body, but sound memory and senses and disposing mind and memory, thanks to this life and that it is appointed for all men once to die, do make and ordain this my last Will and Testament in manner and form following:
....(viz) I will that all of my just debts and funeral charges be paid by my executor, hereafter named.
....(item) I will to my beloved wife, Susannah Kolb, shall have her living of the land and premises whereon I now reside, during her life or widowhood, with her part of all the rest of my estate, including her bed and it furniture, with her wearing clothes, and also I bequeath a horse saddle and bridle. The horse by the name of Dick and her third part of the rest of my estate, excepting my land, which she was to have her living of, as above described, is to devolve to the rest of heirs, after her decease.
....(item) To my first child, Harris Kolb, I will a horse, bridle and saddle, the horse, named Jack.
....(item) The rest of my children, which is Nancy, Sophia, Rebeccah, Harmon, James, Mary Ann, Jonathan, Richard I(I), and Susannah all shear (sp.) alike with that part of the property that is to be sold, all but the land that is to be equally divided between the five sons above mentioned. Harris KOLB is included with the five sons above mentioned.
....I do appoint James Cash and Susannah Kolb whole and sol executors of this my last will and testament, hereby revoking all other will by me made prior to the date of this.
....In Witness, I have hereunto set my hand and seal, the day and date above written, signed: Jonathan Kolb (seal)
....Signed and dated in presence of, as my last will and testament,
Ephraim Lindsey
James Cash
WILL PROBATION
Georgia
Jackson County
Personally came into open Court Ephriam Lindsey and Patrick Cash, who being duly sworn saith that they were present and saw Jonathan Kolb sign, seal and acknowledge the within Will that they were subscribing witnesses to the same. Sworn to in open court this 2nd day of March, 1812. Edw. Adams, Clk,
Ephraim Lindsey
Patrick C. Cash (his mark)
Deciphered by Erby R. Kolb, 1964
FOOTNOTES: Sept. 2, 1816 David Witt & William Potts appointed guardian of Harmon, James, Jonathan and Richard Kolb, orphan children of Jonathan Kolb, deceased.
i. NANCY AGNES KOLB, b. Abt. 1794; m. JAMES CASH, September 03, 1810, Jackson County, Georgia.
170. ii. POR RICHARD HARRIS KOLB, b. Abt. 1795; d. Aft. 1870, lived in Lebanon, Sevier Co., Arkansas.
171. iii. SOPHIA KOLB, b. October 24, 1796, North Carolina; d. August 14, 1847, Heard County, Georgia.
172. iv. REBECCA KOLB, b. Abt. 1798, South Carolina.
173. v. HARMON KOLB, b. December 09, 1799; d. July 22, 1841.
vi. JAMES CARL KOLB, b. January 04, 1802, Georgia; d. May 07, 1885, Rainbow, Riverside County, California; m. REBECCA BOREN.
Census: 1860 Lampasas Co., Texas
174. viii. JONATHAN L. KOLB, b. July 12, 1807, Jackson County, Georgia; d. December 18, 1872, Ellis County, Texas.
175. ix. RICHARD HARRISON KOLB, b. Abt. 1809.
x. SUSANNAH KOLB, b. Abt. 1811, Jackson County, Georgia.
On August 1, 1814, James Kolb, 12 years old, orphan son of Jonathan Kolb deceased was bound to Abraham Scott; Susannah Kolb, ditto, three years, was bound to David Witt.
Date: Sat, 9 May 1998
From: Lisa Jadwin
Sometime before 1809, the family moved to Georgia. In 1809, moved to area near Connersville, Franklin County, Indiana. In 1812, moved to Fayette County, Indiana. In 1814 he was a founding member of the Lick Creek Baptist Church (founding date 14 May 1814). He received a homestead from the US government in Fayette County.
See her webpage at http://www.jadwin.net/genealogy/kolb.html
176. i. TILMAN KOLB, b. November 30, 1800, Georgia; d. August 19, 1849, Fayette County, Indiana.
177. ii. SUSANNA KOLB, b. February 20, 1802, Georgia; d. 1880, Fayette County, Indiana.
iii. SILAS KOLB, b. April 28, 1803, Georgia; d. January 14, 1831, Fayette County, Indiana; m. CHRISTINA PENWELL, November 24, 1824, Fayette County, Indiana; b. Abt. 1814, New Jersey.
178. iv. WILLIAM KOLB, b. June 07, 1805, Georgia; d. July 29, 1898, Oxford, Benton County, Indiana.
179. v. MARGARET KOLB, b. July 03, 1807, Ohio; d. October 10, 1879, Rush County, Indiana.
vi. JEMIMA KOLB, b. March 13, 1809, Franklin County, Indiana; m. JONATHAN GORDON, May 03, 1854, Fayette County, Indiana.
Any relation to the Jonathan Gordon who in 1828 married Matilda Tyner?
Fayette Co. In Marriage Records:
GORDEN, Isaac THARP, Polly 15 Oct. 1829
GORDEN, Jonathan TYNER, Matilda 9 Oct. 1828
GORDEN, William (State of Ohio) KOLB, Elizabeth 28 Dec. 1829
GORDON, David TYNER, Emily 30 May 1827 Lic. issued
GORDON, Jonathon KOLB, Jemima 5 March 1854
GORDON, Marvin H. KLUM, Katharine 29 December 1853
181. viii. CHRISTIANA KOLB, b. Abt. 1813.
ix. RICHARD KOLB, b. September 04, 1812, Franklin County, Indiana; d. Abt. 1842, Fayette County, Indiana; m. MARY HOOVER, October 18, 1838, Fayette County, Indiana.
x. LEANNER KOLB, b. February 24, 1817, Fayette County, Indiana, USA; d. December 18, 1890, Carroll County, Indiana, USA; m. DAVID HOOVER, March 02, 1837, Fayette County, Indiana, USA; b. Abt. 1814, Pennsylvania, USA.
1850 Prairie, Henry, Indiana
Hoover, David...29...farmer...$700...PA
...Anna...27...PA
...John....PA
...Mary Ann...5...IN
...William...2...IN
Hoover, David...55...$900 personal...PA...farmer
...Leanna...52...IN
...William F. ...16...IN...works on farm
...Mary...14...IN
...Barbrie A. ...8...IN
Frank Hoover ...26...farmer...IN...PA...IN
Rachael Hoover...24...Missouri...Missouri...Missouri
Elmer Hoover ...1...Missouri...Missouri...Missouri
Leanner Hoover...63...mother...Indiana...MO...MO
Nancy Kolb...58...aunt...Indiana...MO...MO
Barbary Kolb ...18...sister...Indiana...MO...MO
Nancy never married.
Frank Hoover ...26...farmer...IN...PA...IN
Rachael Hoover...24...Missouri...Missouri...Missouri
Elmer Hoover ...1...Missouri...Missouri...Missouri
Leanner Hoover...63...mother...Indiana...MO...MO
Nancy Kolb...58...aunt...Indiana...MO...MO
Barbary Kolb ...18...sister...Indiana...MO...MO
1820 Fayette Co., Indiana (no twp listed) (p. 23 or 31)
James was killed by a tree he was felling.
Census: 1830 Widow in Harrison Twp., Fayette Co., Indiana (p.36)
182. i. LUCINDA TYNER, b. May 1799, Abbeville District, South Carolina, USA; d. September 20, 1851, Connersville, Fayette County, Indiana, USA.
183. ii. MALINDA TYNER, b. November 19, 1802, Abbeville District, South Carolina, USA; d. November 14, 1869, Fayette County, Indiana, USA.
184. iii. JOHN TYNER, b. Abt. 1804, Abbeville District, South Carolina, USA; d. Abt. 1836, Fayette County, Indiana, USA.
185. iv. RICHARD TYNER, b. October 03, 1806, Abbeville District, South Carolina, USA; d. April 28, 1893, Loganspot, Cass County, Indiana, USA.
186. v. MATILDA TYNER, b. 1809, Dearborn County (now Franklin), Indiana, USA; d. Bef. 1850.
187. vi. SAMUEL GIVENS TYNER, b. December 29, 1811, Franklin County (now Fayette), Indiana, USA; d. June 03, 1883, Fayette County, Indiana, USA.
vii. JAMES TYNER, b. August 14, 1814, Fayette County, Indiana; d. December 05, 1831, Fayette County, Indiana.
188. viii. WILLIAM TYNER, b. Abt. 1816; d. August 30, 1896.
189. ix. DANIEL HARRIS TYNER, b. Abt. 1817, Fayette County, Indiana, USA; d. December 1875, Medicine Lodge, Barber County, Kansas, USA.
From Earl and Velma Tyner:
Fanny and John migrated to Kentucky (with brother Wm.). They followed Boone's last trip from S. Carolina over Clinch mountains, through the Cumberland Gap. to Scott County where Georgetown now stands. At that time it took about 5 weeks tomake the trip. The journey to Kentucky was made by the party on foot and horseback. The men came on foot, the women and children who could not walk, took turns walking or riding. Their baggage and goods were carried on pack saddles.
i. MARTHA TYNER, b. Abt. 1815, Fayette County, Indiana; d. Bef. 1830, Fayette County, Indiana.
190. ii. DRURY DRUMMOND TYNER, b. December 17, 1800, Abbeville District, South Carolina, USA; d. December 17, 1882, Lagro, Wabash County, Indiana, USA.
191. iii. SERENA TYNER, b. November 05, 1802, Abbeville District, South Carolina; d. October 17, 1853, Fayette County, Indiana.
iv. NANCY TYNER, b. Abt. 1805, Abbeville District, South Carolina; d. May 29, 1865, Washington Township, Rush County, Indiana, USA; m. JOASH A. COOK, December 11, 1823, Fayette County, Indiana, USA.
Genealogical Sources: Dorothy L Riker Indiana Historical Society 1971
Fayette County Marriages
Cook, Joash & Mary Tynes (Tyner?) 12/11/1823
Nancy Cook...44...SC...$1,200
John T. Cook...23...IN
Joash M. Cook...20...IN
John M Cook...30...farmer...IN ...3000/700
Nancy Cook...55...OH
Nancy Dyer...12...IN
John F Dyer...33...farmer...IN
Amanda Dyer...23...IN
James W Dyer...3...IN
Samuel Dyer... 1...IN
COOK-
Nancy age 50, seamstress b. NC
Louisa age 30 b. NC
James age 21, laborer, b. IN
Dan’l age 19, laborer, b. IN
Jane age 11, b. IN
Henry ETCHISON age 2 b. IL?
193. vi. EMILY TYNER, b. August 11, 1809, Franklin County, Indiana; d. November 08, 1873, Fayette County, Indiana.
194. vii. STEPHEN TYNER, b. June 11, 1811, Franklin County, Indiana, USA; d. April 25, 1880, Tipton County, Indiana, USA.
195. viii. ANNA TYNER, b. March 03, 1813, Brookville, Franklin County, Indiana, USA; d. March 02, 1869.
ix. MILTON TYNER, b. May 05, 1817, Fayette County, Indiana; d. November 05, 1839, Harrison Township, Fayette County, Indiana.
x. JOHN HARRIS TYNER, b. October 03, 1821, Harrison Twp., Fayette Co., Indiana; d. January 26, 1900, Fayette County, Indiana; m. MARY CARVER, April 26, 1840, Fayette County, Indiana; b. October 14, 1820, New Jersey.
http://www.countyhistory.com/doc.fayet/356.htm
BIOGRAPHICAL HISTORY OF WAYNE, FAYETTE, UNION, AND FRANKLIN COUNTIES, INDIANA
by Lewis Publishing Company
John H. Tyner.
.....An energetic and progressive farmer and honored citizen of Posey Township is John H. Tyner, who has spent his entire life in Fayette County, his birth occurring in Harrison Township, October 3, 1821. His parents, John and Fanny (Martin) Tyner, were born, reared and married in South Carolina. The family was one of prominence in that state, its representatives being mostly planters. The paternal grandfather was killed in the Revolutionary War. Three of his sons, William, and John and James (twins), came to Indiana in 1816 and located in Fayette County, where they entered land from the government and improved farms.
.....John Tyner, the father of our subject, entered three hundred and twenty acres in Harrison Township, and from the wild land developed a fine farm, on which he spent the remainder of his life. He was one of the most prominent and influential farmers and stock raisers of his day, and in his undertakings met with well-deserved success. He was broad-minded and liberal, public spirited and enterprising, and was a genial and entertaining companion. By his ballot he supported the Democratic Party. He always refused to become a candidate for office, though often solicited by his friends to accept that of County Commissioner. He was an earnest and faithful member of the Primitive Baptist Church, and served as deacon in the same. His wife's brothers were Stephen Martin, William Martin and George Martin; Stephen lived in Franklin County, and William and George in Fayette County. Our subject is the youngest of a family of ten children, the others being Drury, who died in Wabash County, Indiana; Mrs. Serena Kolb; Nancy, wife of J. A. Cook; James, who died in Hancock County; Emily, wife of Dr. Gordon; Stephen, who died in Tipton County; Anna, wife of F. Taylor; Mehitable, who died young; Milton, who died in Harrison Township, Fayette County.
.....John H. Tyner, whose name introduces this sketch, passed his early life upon his father's farm, attending the subscription schools taught in an old log schoolhouse for three months during the winter and assisting his father during the remainder of the year. The latter died when John H. was small, but he continued with his mother until she too was called to her final rest, and as soon as large enough he took charge of the homestead. In 1840 he was married, and about two years later the mother died, at which time the heirs amicably divided the estate. Soon afterward Mr. Tyner purchased eighty acres of heavily timbered land, and after erecting a cabin thereon he commenced to clear and improve the place, which required much hard labor. As his financial resources increased he bought more land, and now has a fine farm, where on he has successfully engaged in general farming and stock raising.
.....Mr. Tyner was married in 1840 to Miss Mary Carver, a daughter of Lewis and Mehitable (Castiline) Carver, natives of New Jersey, where they were married. In 1822 they removed to Steuben County, New York, where the father engaged in farming for ten years, and then came to Fayette County, Indiana. Purchasing a farm near Bentonville, he engaged in agricultural pursuits here for several years, and on selling out moved to Madison County, where he purchased another farm, on a portion of which the town of Orestes now stands. There his death occurred. His occupation through life was farming, and he met with a fair degree of success. He was a strong Democrat and was well posted on the leading issues of the day. He wielded considerable influence in his party, but would never accept office. He was a loving husband and an indulgent father, and lived amicably with all men, never suing nor having been sued by anyone. Both he and his estimable wife were faithful members of the Primitive Baptist Church. To this worthy couple were born eleven children, namely: Mary, wife of our subject; Rebecca, wife of S. Wickston; Charlotte, who first married Thomas Stanley and second W. Willitts; Orin, a resident of Kansas; Rachel, wife of J. Harris; Sarah, who died when a young lady; Hulda; Calvin, a resident of Kansas; Lloyd, a railroad man; Zilla, wife of I. Ellis; and Byron, a farmer of Fayette County, Indiana.
.....Mr. and Mrs. Tyner were living at their beautiful country home, in the full enjoyment of well spent lives, surrounded by a host of warm and admiring friends, when on the 1st day of October 1899, Mrs. Tyner passed away in death. Religiously she held membership in the Primitive Baptist Church, as does also her husband. Mr. Tyner is a leader in all social and political maters of his township, and although a strong Democrat he votes at local elections for the ones whom he considers the best men, regardless of party ties. He has been chosen to fill several positions of honor and trust, and for fourteen years served as Township Trustee, with credit to himself and to the perfect satisfaction of his constituents. During that time he saved for the township considerable in the building of schoolhouses and on all public works.
Baptist
March 18, 1802 stopped at Scott Co. KY by packhorse w/Wm. Tyner, their families, 4 hired men
In 1803 to Boone Co. KY on north bend of Ohio RiverJune 20, 1806 from Dearborn, IN filed on land in Indiana Survey.
Abraham Hackleman went up White River by boat in 1804 with William Tyner and Jacob Hackleman, and saw Indiana where Brookville now stands; journeyed on east to Richmond; and returned by way of Miami, Ohio.
In 1806 took family to Little Cedar Grove, Franklin, IN in spring
He fought in War of 1812, 3 mons. under Capt. John Lyran in Franklin Co. IN
February, 1821 moved to Little Flat Rock Creek, Rush Co. IN
In the fall of 1835, to Morgan Co. Illinois but dissatisfied with what he found there
In 1836 to Rush County, IN.
In 1839 to Wabash County, IN.
September 21, 1848 had a stroke; died October 16th
196. i. RICHARD HACKLEMAN, b. August 17, 1797, Abbeville, South Carolina, USA; d. September 14, 1873, Hancock County, Indiana, USA.
197. ii. JAMES HACKLEMAN, b. August 14, 1799, Abbeville, South Carolina, USA; d. April 27, 1869, Henry County, Indiana, USA.
198. iii. NANCY HACKLEMAN, b. January 11, 1801, Abbeville, South Carolina; d. December 18, 1850, Huntingdon County, Indiana.
199. iv. ABRAHAM HACKLEMAN, b. October 16, 1802, Georgetown, Scott, Kentucky; d. October 30, 1846, Mount Pleasant, Des Moines County, Iowa.
200. v. JACOB TYNER HACKLEMAN, b. August 06, 1804, Boone County, Kentucky, USA; d. September 26, 1843, Iowa, USA.
201. vi. MATILDA HACKLEMAN, b. January 20, 1806, Boone County, Kentucky; d. December 16, 1862, Ashland, Huntington County, Indiana.
vii. PRESTON HACKLEMAN, b. October 20, 1808, Franklin County, Indiana; d. December 29, 1813, Franklin County, Indiana.
Abner/Abraham Hackleman was examining father's old-fashioned flint-lock when it fired a load into the chest of little Preston, who was at the table eating dinner. Abner was horribly upset.
ix. ELIZABETH HACKLEMAN, b. July 27, 1816, Franklin County, Indiana; d. January 24, 1817, Franklin County, Indiana.
202. x. ELIJAH HACKLEMAN, b. October 18, 1817, Franklin County, Indiana; d. January 16, 1901, Wabash County, Indiana.
--1755 Chowan Co, NC -- Birth per Rev War Papers ***August***
--1776 Abbeville Co, SC -- Rev War per Rev War Papers
--1776: His first child Jackson Tyner, Sr., was born in 1776. Judith Rittenhouse Carpenter points out that "JACKSON TYNER'S TYNER-HUDDLESTON BIBLE LISTS DEMPSEY AND OBEDIENCE TYNER SO WOULD SEEM THAT OBEDIENCE WAS HIS MOTHER IN 1776." (Look under Obedience Sevier for the Bible; these notes are already too long for my computer program to add it!) Jackson married Mary Spivey in 1826. Mary took care of Dempsey and Obedience at least by 1840 when an older couple show up in their household. They record Dempsey's death. Mary helps Obedience with her application for support from Dempsey's Rev. War Pension.
--1780 Mary A. Tyner was born to Dempsey [On 18 Aug 1871, she was 91 years old].
--1780 Obedience Rhoda Tyner born. Married Jeremiah Hibbs abt. 1805 in Hamilton CO., TN.
---Revolutionary War Audited Accounts
Rev. War Audited Account of Dr. Timothy Russell (6692-B), South Carolina Department of Archives and History.
Genl. Cunningham:
To D. Timothy Russell
12 Novm ? Decr, 1780
In attendance medicine and lodgings for the different wounded men under nam?d:
Jno. (?) Murrey . . . . . . . . . . . . )
Joshua Wallace . . . . . . . . . . . . )
Dems Tiner . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . )
Dan E. Wellch . . . . . . . . . . . . . )
John Willard . . . . . . . . . . . . . ) Amot
and five others of his Brigade . . . . . . ) L. 89~5~
Ninety six District )) Doctr Timothy Russell duly made doth that the above amt of Eighy (sic) nine pounds 5f sterling is just & true. That Genl Robt Cummingham, affirmed payment of the same, but never paid any part thereof. Sworn to the 17th July 1783.
before me 5RR Pat: C. A. Houston or Calhoun
--1785 (a) Reuben J. Tyner born to Dempsey according to Frances Yager/John Strange. Does anyone know where?
(b) 1790 Reuben J. Tyner born in Cherokee Nation East to Dempsey. Is this the same one born in 1785 or another child? Zella Armstrong in her book on Hamilton Co., TN, says Reuben Jackson Tyner who served in Mexican War was a child of Dempsey.***
--1786 Land Court Records 1786-1792 for Wilkes Co. for Jan. 2, 1786, p. 296 of Early Records of Georgia lists "Warrant to Thos. McCall for 2300 acres on ten Continental Bounties on reserve in the names of ...Demcey Tuner. (Could this be Demsey Tyner?) Research by Judith Rittenhouse.
--1785-1792 Jesse Tyner born to Dempsey, according to Frances Yager/John Strange.
--1790 Edgefield Co, SC -- Residence = Census Records
--1790: Reuben Jackson Tyner was born in the Cherokee Nation about 1790 (That could put Dempsey in South Carolina,Tennessee, or Georgia, per Judith Rittenhouse Carpenter)
--1790-1800 A William Tyner is born according to Censuses of 1840 Tishomingo Co., MS, and 1830 McNairy Co., TN. He would have been born to Dempsey and Obedience when they were between 35 - 45 years of age. Family tradition states that our Tyners came from Tyner, Tennessee, which was named after their ancestors. (Judith Rittenhouse's line.)
--1792 Sevier Tyner born to Dempsey. Date from Frances Yager/John Strange.
--1794 Nathan Tyner born to Dempsey. Date from Frances Yager/John Strange.
--1794 Edgefield Co, SC -- Witness for Land Sale
The book is "Edgefield County, South Carolina Abstracts of Deed Books 1-12--1786-1796, Volume One".
Deed Book 11: 1794-1795 Edgefield County, SC
Pp. 278-280 15 May 1794: Richard Pond, Cooper to William Morgan, Planter, both of Edgefield Co., SC for 12 pounds, sold 49 acres being part of a 274 acres granted 5 Nov 1792 to Richard Pond on Foxes Creek of Savannah River. S/ Richrd Pond. Wit: DEMSEY TINER, Christopher Shaw, who swore by oath 4 Oct 1794 before Joseph Hightower, J.P. Rcd. 13 Oct. 1794
--1798 Leroy Tyner born to Dempsey. Date from Frances Yager/John Strange.
--1800 A John Tyner born. He and wife Rachael Ryder had children named Evaline, b. Rhea Co., TN; Seviere; Ivory; and Biddy listed on application of Henry Burkett, sone of Evaline to the Guion Miller Commission; Claim denied. Information from James W. Russell.***
--1800+/- Jackson Co, GA -- Residence = Rev War Papers
--1800 Census for South Carolina lists Demsey Tyner with one male over 16 and five females in 96th District.-
--1800 Lewis B. Tyner born in Cherokee Nation East to Dempsey. From Ruby Cranor and DAR#729659.
--1800 Fannie Tyner born. Listed as child of Dempsey and Obedience in James B. Tyner's Land Allotment Appl. #3918 in Cherokee Nation.
--1800: By his first wife, Rachel Youngblood, Jackson Tyner had a daughter Sara Rachel, born Apr 1800. Judith Rittenhouse adds, "I wish I knew when Rachel died, because Obedience raised her child Sara Rachel. This would make Obedience the wife of Dempsey at that date."
--1802 Hiram Tyner born to Dempsey according to Frances Yager/John Strange and Ruby Cranor as 1802/1806.
--1802 Dempsey moved to Jackson Co., GA, from Edgefield Co., S.C. according to Rev. War papers, and resided there about 7 years.
--1803 Defaulters in Jackson Co., GA, land lottery included Dempsey Tyner. Info sent to Judith Rittenhouse by Marguarite Byram Hicks in 1976.
--1804 Frances Tyner born to Dempsey.
--1805 Demsey Tyner listed in Georgia Land Lottery with a draw from Jackson Co., GA. Listed as married.
--1806 Dempsey Tyner worked and was overseer of James Vann's plantation at Springfield, GA. Frances Yager/John Strange note that Reuben J. Tyner is mentioned in the diaries of the Cherokees as working for Clement Vann on his plantation at Springplace, GA, in 1806 and 1821. Judith Rittenhouse made a visit to that area and found Lewis Tyner listed as a student at the Moravian School about 1802 or so/
--1807 Georgia's Land Lottery finds Dempsey granted 700 acres in Jackson Co., Grant Book G-5, p. 55.
--1808 Obediance or Biddy Tyner born to Dempsey according to Frances Yager/John Strange. Robert Scott Davis, Jr., suggests an Obedience Burton might be a daughter of Obedience and Dempsey Tyner. Samuel and Obedience Burton would have possibly married in 1835 from birth of their oldest child Indiana Eveline Burton who was born 3 April 1836 in Georgia according to her Confederate Widow's Pension in Hall County Files, microfilm reel 174/7.
--1809 Moved to Roane Co., TN, from Georgia where he lived for five years according to Rev. War
pension application S1599.
--25 Nov 1809 Mary A. Tyner and George Smith took out marriage license in Roane Co., TN.
--3 Dec 1811 Reuben Tiner and Jinney Carter took out marriage license in Roane Co., TN. Bond missing and no return ever made. Research by Judith Rittenhouse. According to Cherokee Pioneers by James Manford Carselowery, Ruben Tyner and Jane Carter were married in the Cherokee Nation in 1811.
"A Reuben Tyner and his Cherokee family emigrated to the Indian territory shortly after 1819," states Emmet Starr in Old Cherokee Families.***
--1812 A Nancy Tyner proposed as daughter to Demsey and Obedience by Ruby Cranor. Same year of birth given by Frances Yager/John Strange. This would make Demsey and Obedience about 56 years old each.
--1814 Dempsey Tyner moved to Hamilton Co., TN, from Roane Co., long before Hamilton was a county. Rev. War Pension Appl. (It was Rhea Co. at the time)***
--1817 Dempsey lives in Rhea Co., TN, for less than a year possibly. Most of Roane, Rhea, and Hamilton were still in Cherokee country at this date. When Rhea County was first formed, "about half of the county and all of the county on the left back of the Tenn. River lay within the territory of the Cherokee Nation," Austin P. Foster in COUNTIES OF TENNESSEE
--1818 A William Tyner is born when Demsey and Obedience would both be about 62 years of age. He died 5 May 1861 near Rock Spring, GA. Probably a grandson, although some trees tack him on as a son.***
--1821 Dempsey witnesses a deed for William Brown of the Cherokee Nation, according to Deed Book A, 1796-1838, Hamilton Co., TN, on 30 Aug 1821 for an Indent between William Brown, Cherokee Nation, and John Cornett, Hamilton Co., TN. Lewis Tyner was also a witness. Research by Judith Rittenhouse.
--1823 Frederick McGuire purchased 700 acres from Dempsey and Obedience Tiner of Hamilton Co., TN. Probably fraudulent on part of Frederick because Dempsey Tiner sold same property to Thompson McGuire on 2 June 1828. There's more to this story if anyone cares. Contributed by Robert S. Davis, Jr.
--1830 Hamilton Co, TN -- Residence = Census Records
--27 Nov 1832 Rev. War Pension Paper No. S1599 filed for Demsey Tyner, Service in S.C. Papers filed in Hamilton Co., TN, when Demsey aged 77 years.
Dempsey Tyner : Revolutionary War Timeline
1776
"Entered service in Abbeville, SC, in 1776. Served about 42 days with Capt. Smith & Capt. Anderson. Next served three months as a spy with Capt. Miller and two months as a private with Capt. Miller. Volunteered under Captain Thomas Kaelin Smith in Abbeville Co., SC, attached to command of Gen. Andrew Williamson and Col. Robert Anderson, this applicant was marched by the above named officers against the Cherokee Indians to Brasstown on Tugalo River, now in SC but then in possession of the Cherokees- where we had some skirmishing from there we were marched to Tomassa another Indian Town where we had an engagement with the Indians in which several of our party were killed and wounded among which was Capt. Hargrove killed and wounded. This applicant returned with the wounded from the last mentioned place to Seneca where some of our troops were forted, at what was called Seneca Fort." (Demsey Tyner #1)
"At Seneca Fort - this applicant was sent for by Capt. Andrew Miller who commanded a Company of rangers on the frontiers of South Carolina under whom this applicant served as a spy-three months-being about six weeks under Capt. Smith as before stated, making this tour about four months and a half. This tour was served in the year 1776 in the latter part of the summer and fall as well as he recollects." (Demsey Tyner #1)
1 Aug 1776 At Senecca, SC, ambushed by Cherokees, Patriot forces saved by a mounted charge. (Dr. Christine Swager #2 and Revolutionary War Timeline #3)
10 Aug 1776 Tugeloo River, SC. Cherokees defeated by Andrew Pickens (Dr. Christine Swager #2 and Revolutionary War Timeline #3)
2 Aug 1776 Tamassy, SC. Col. Williamson and Andew Pickens defeated large Cherokee war party
Aug 1776 Ring Fight, SC?. This is not mentioned by Demsey; however it happened in August when he was serving with Andrew Pickens. Two hundred Cherokees attacked Andrew Pickens and 25 militia. From a circle, firing in turn, the patriots held off attackers until a rescue force arrived."
State of Georgia
By His Excellency Jared Irwin
Governor and Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of this State and of the Militia thereof.
To all to whom these presents shall come, GREETING:
Know ye, that in pursuance of the act for opening the Land Office and by virtue of the powers in me vested; I have given and granted, and by these presents, in the name and behalf of the said state, DO give and grant unto Dempsey Tyner, his heirs and assigns forever; all the tract, lot or parcel of land, containing seven hundred acres, situate, lying and being in the County of Jackson, in the said State, and butting and bounding northeast by Pates land, southeastwardly by warrant land, and southwestwardly by Creswells land, and northwestwardly by Pike's land, having such shape, form and marks as appear by a plat of the same hereunto annexed; Together with all and singular the rights, members and appurtenances thereof whatsoever to the said tract or parcel of land belonging, or in any wise appertaining; and also all the estate, right, title, interest, claim and demand of the state aforesaid, of, in, to, or out of the same: TO HAVE AND TO HOLD the said tract or parcel of land, and all and singular the
premises aforesaid, their and every of their rights, members and appurtances, unto the said Dempsey Tyner, his heirs and assigns to his and their own proper use and Behoof forever, in Fee Simple.
Given under my Hand, and the Great
Seal of said State this Fourteenth Day of
July in the year eighteen hundred seven and
of the Independence of America the thirty
second.
Signed by his Excellency the Governor the 14th day of July
1807. Jared Irwin
James Boseman, S. E. D.
Registered the 14th day of July 1807
State of Tennessee)
Hamilton County )
.....On this 27th day of November 1832 personally appeared in this court before the Worshipful Justices of the Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions for Hamilton County aforesaid now sitting, Demsey Tyner resident of the County and State aforesaid aged seventy seven years and who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress passed June 7th 1832. That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated that is to say that he volunteered under Captain Thomas Keelin Smith in Abbeville County South Carolina who was attached to the command of General Andrew Williamson and Colonel Robert Anderson. This applicant was marched by the above named officers against the Cherokee Indians to Brass Town on the Tugulo river now in South Carolina but then in possession of the Cherokees - where he saw some skirmishing from there we were marched to Tamossa another Indian Town where he had an engagement with the Indians in which seventeen of our party were killed and wounded among which was Captain Hargrove killed. This applicant returned with the wounded from the last mentioned place to Seneca where some of our troops were forted at what was called Seneca Fort. This applicant was sent for by Captain Andrew Miller who commanded a Company of Rangers on the frontier of South Carolina under whom this applicant served as a Spy- three months- being about six weeks under Capt Smith as before stated this tour about four months and a half. This tour was served in the year 1776 in the latter part of the summer and fall as well as he recollects. This applicant immediately after serving as a spy was called on to go to Snow Camps under Captain Miller against the Tories and served better than two months against them and returned without effecting anything except taking a number of Tories as prisoners.
.....This applicant in the spring of '77 volunteered under Captain Miller, Col Anderson and Gen'l Williamson in the County of Abbeville and State of South Carolina and left home the 7th day of April and was marched by the before named officers on what was called the Florida Expedition to St. Mary's river to a place called Fort Tonen where the Army remained two or three weeks and was marched back by the same officers to XXXXXXXXXXX and was dismissed at Cherokee Hills- in Georgia and was five days getting from there home. got home the 15th of August- having served about four months this tour. Some time in the fall after this applicant returned home he again volunteered and was marched by Lieutenant Norrid, a Lieutenant of Captain Millers Company under Gen Williamson and Major Middleton (who was an acting major in the Florida Campaign) to the siege of Savanna and was at the siege about two weeks - the Company to which this applicant belonged was marched from there to Parker's Ferry on Stone River to oppose the Tories who were collecting there. Gen Marion had dispersed them before our company reached there. Our Company was dismissed at said Ferry to return home and did return - having served this tour ten weeks or more. Soon after this applicant returned from the siege at Savannah he was again called on by his Captain (Miller) and marched to McGowens blockhouse against the Tories where Capt Millers and Captain Baskin's Companies had an engagement with the Tories, and Capt Miller was shot through the knee and he and Capt Baskins taken prisoners by the Tories. This applicant and several others who were in the engagement made their escape without being taken and joined Major Pickens at the Cherokee Ford and marched against the Tories to Kittle Creek under him where we had another engagement with them and defeated them and took three hundred prisoners. This applicant was ordered on the guard to guard the prisoners to Ninety-Six. After guarding them to Ninety-Six this applicant was frequently engaged as a scout against the tories for a considerable length of time and was much embarrassed by them until Gen. Greene sent word to South Carolina that he would relieve the countrys - and General Clark then Col Clark from the State of Georgia came into South Carolina and took command of about three hundred troops - among the number this applicant entered the service again as a volunteer and was marched to Keeley branch of Long Cane Creek and had several engagements with the British and Tories under Kouger and Allen in which engagement this applicant was wounded in the arm and was taken prisoner until after the Entam battle when this applicant was exchanged at Orangeburg - or Sullivan Island, and returned home having been in service and a prisoner upwards of nine months this tour. This applicant then removed to Edgefield County S. Carolina and volunteered under Captain Thomas Lewis who was commanded by Col LeRoy Hammond and was marched to Dorchester twenty five miles from Charleston but was in no engagement this expedition. After lying there some time this applicant was discharged which discharge has long since been lost. This applicant not knowing that it would ever benefit him he knows not what has become of it. The applicant considered himself at all times ready to obey the calls of his officers and has given the best account of his actual services he is able to give from his recollection. He knows he served more than he can recall the particulars about. This applicant don't recollect the names of any regular officers of the American Troops with whom he served except the Count De Estang - General Sampler, General Marion and Gen. Pulaski - with all of whom this applicant served at different times. He states that he has no documentary evidence of the services. That if he received more than one written discharge he has forgotten it. He does not know of any living witness he can procure as to his services during the Revolution. He states that he was born in the year 1755 in North Carolina Chowan County on the 4th day of August. He has no record of his age-his father left a Bible to him that had a record of his age in it with the ages of three of his children which Bible among other property was taken or destroyed by the Tories in the Revolution.
.....He was living in Abbeville County South Carolina when he first entered the service and removed as he has stated before the revolution ended. After the revolution he removed from Edgefield S C to Jackson County State of Georgia where he lived about seven years he does not recollect how long he lived in Edgefield S.C.before he moved to Georgia. He removed from Georgia to the State of Tennessee, Roane County, where he resided about five years from where he removed to Hamilton County where he has resided about eighteen years - being a resident here before the county was organized and still resides there. He has stated how he was called into service and the several circumstances of his service as well as he can recollect. He has stated all he recollects about his discharges
.....He states that he is known in his present neighborhood to David Henderson, Esq and James Russell who can testify as to his character for veracity and good behavior and their belief of his services as a soldier of the revolution but not to any clergyman whom he can obtain.
.....He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and he declares that his name is not on the pension role of the agency of any state.
Sworn to and subscribed to ) Signed Demsey Tiner
this day and place aforesaid )
in open Court
Attest Asabel Rawlings
I Davis C. Grisham, Clerk of the Inferior Court of said County in said State do hereby certify that it was proved in Open Court that Demsey Tyner who formerly lived in Hamilton County State of Tennessee, departed this life in the County of Meriwether and State of Georgia on the Thirteenth of October Eighteen hundred and forty two, and that Obedience Tyner the applicant for arrears of pension is the widow of the said Demsey Tyner who was the identical person named in an original Certificate in the possession of the said Obedience Tyner of which (I certify) the following is a true copy:
I certify that in conformity with the laws of the United States of the 7th June 1832 Demsey Tyner of the State of Tennessee who was a private in the Army of the Revolution is entitled to receive Eighty dollars and --- cents per annum during his natural life commincing on the 4th of March 1831 and payable semi-annually on the 4th of March and 4th of September in every year.
John Robb Acting Secretary of War
Examined and Countersigned I. L. Edwards Commissioner of Pensions Georgia Meriwether County
The testamony advanced was satisfactory to the Court. Given under my hand and Seal of Office this 28th Oct. 1844
signed Davis C. Grisham Clk Infer. Court
APPLICATION FOR PENSION OF DEMSEY TYNER
REFERENCE PAYMENT OF HIS WIDOW'S PENSION
Natioal Archives M804-2433, S. 1599 GEORGIA ) )
MERRIWEATHER COUNTY ) Enclosed I send you the claim of Obedience Tyner for arrears of Pension from the 4th of September 1838 until the 13th of October 1842. I applied at Knoxville to the Pension Agent, annd was informed that I would have to apply at the City of Washington in consequence of which I have taken a new Power of Attorney to receive it where ever the money may be ordered paid at. I have also enclosed the Original Warrant.
This 7th July 1845
John W. Shepherd
(Justice of Peace)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Know all men by these presents that I, Obedience Tyner of Merriweather County and State of Georgia, the widow of Dempsey Tyner, dec'd, a Revolutionary Pensioner of the United States, do hereby constitute and appoint John W. Shephard my true and lawful Attorney for me and in my name to receive from the agent of the United States for paying pensions, the arrears of Pensions due said Dempsey Tyner from fourth day of September Eighteen hundred and thirty Eight until his death October 13th 1842.
Witness my hand annd Seal this 30th of June 1845 )
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Her
Sealed and delivered in the) Obedience X Tyner
presence of )
Mark
Mary Tyner
John W. Shephard
-- 1843 Meriwether Co, GA -- Death
....."Dempsey Tyner was one of Hamilton County's earliest settlers. John S. Tyner, the founder of Tynersville, formed a company to fight for the Confederacy. But the Tyners had disappeared from the county by the end of the Civil War.
.....The Tyners are said to go back to England, where they lived near the Tyne River. In the early days in America, the name was sometimes spelled Tynes. A descendant said they were known in England as "shipbuilders and boisterous beer drinkers." Nicholas Tynes (Tyner) was in Isle of Wight County, Va., and Chowan County, N.C. In 1669 he sold 400 acres that he "lately purchased of Thomas Hoskinse" on the Chowan River. Nicholas Tyner Jr., of Isle of Wight County, received several hundred acres in Chowan County from his father, Nicholas Tyner, Sr. In 1716, he sold 450 acres of this property, including "all the houses, gardens, orchards, etc."
.....Dempsey Tyner ws born in Chowan County on Aug. 4, 1755, and was the son of William and Elizabeth Tyner. Dempsey moved to Edgefield District, S.C., along with some of his relatives. Harris Tyner died at Abbeville in 1844. William Tyner also moved to this section of South Carolina. He died in 1778. Dempsey Tyner joined the Patriot army while at Abbeville. After his Revolutionary War service, he moved to Jackson County, Ga., then he pushed on to Roane County, Tenn. He then moved to Hamilton County.
.....Dempsey Tyner's wife was Obedience "Biddy" Sevier. His sons apparently included John, Hiram, Reuben Jackson, Jackson, Jesse, Nathan, Lewis, Sevier and William H. John was born in 1789 and married Rachel Rider, who was born in 1793 in South Carolina. A daughter, Emaline was born in Rhea County in 1821. She married Isaac K. Burkhart, who was also from Rhea County. John Tyner died in 1850. Sevier and William Tyner of Hamilton County served in the fighting against the Seminole Indians in Florida in 1837-38. Reuben Jackson Tyner was in the Mexican War. He had married Jenny Carter at Roane County in 1811. Jackson Tyner married Mary Spivey at Putnam County, Ga., in 1826. William Tyner lived from about 1818 to 1861. His first wife was Lucy Ann. His second wife was Catherine Brigmon, whom he married at Walker County, Ga., in 1846.
.....Reuben Jackson Tyner helped build the little log schoolhouse in Chattanooga at Fifth and Lookout Streets. A daughter was Martha Tyner Papineau. Her daughter, Mrs. Minnie E. Fanning, lived on Battery Place.
.....Some of the Tyners married into the Indian tribes, and the wife of Dempsey Tyner was apparently from the Cherokees. A number of Tyner descendants later filed claims with the government for funds going to those with Indian ancestors. Dempsey and Lewis Tyner in 1821 in Hamilton County witnessed a deed from William Brown of the Cherokee Nation to John Cornett for property about a mile below the mouth of North Chickamauga Creek.
.....Dempsey Tyner died Oct. 13, 1842. Obedience Sevier Tyner lived her last days with Jackson and Mary Tyner in Meriweather County, Va."
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 7:37 PM
.....In looking at the 1830 US census for Hamilton County, Tennessee, page 85 shows a Damsey Tyner age 70-79 and a female (Obedience?) age 70-79. Yet, I show them as both being deceased by Oct 1842 in Merriwether, Georgia.
.....Any comments? Did Dempsey and Obedience go back to Georgia?
.....A Lewis Tyner with six children and a wife are shown on page 84 of the same census. No other Tyners were listed.
Jerry
"I have been trying to discover the origins of Obedience Tyner (Dempsey's wife) with little success. I did find her name in the book "History of the Lauderdales in America: 1714-1850 by Clint Lauderdale published by Heritage Books, Bowie Maryland, 1998. It references Frances Tyner and Robert Lauderdale, my 3g grandparents by saying that Frances was one half Cherokee, the daughter of Dempsey and Obedience Tyner (a Cherokee)...
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 02:05:46 -0500 (EST)
From: Keri Ann Webster
To: TYNER-L at rootsweb.com
I am on a trail of finding the history of Obedience. John Sevier who signed her marriage certificate as Obedience being indentured to, was Gov John Sevier. He was constantly in battle with Cherokee's, and met his match in Chief Dragging Canoe. It is quite clear after reading the history of John Sevier, that he
killed MANY Cherokees at times wiping out entire villages. It is most likely he abducted Obedience renamed her and used her as a slave. Dempsey Tyner was likely HIS Cherokee interpreter. Thus being given Obedience as a gift perhaps? I am talking to decsendants of Dragging Canoe, and hope they have more info for me. i will keep you all posted.
Keri Ann
TYNER - HUDDLESTON BIBLE
Contributor: Mrs. Laurazeta Lewis Smith
H. & E. PHINNEY'S STEREOTYPE EDITION
THE HOLY BIBLE
OLD AND NEW TESTAMENTS TOGETHER WITH THE APOCRYPHA
PUBLISHED AND SOLD BY H. & e. PHINNEY
ALSO SOLD BY I TIFFANY UTICA
1838
Column 1 Page 1
John T. Owens & Eliza Ann Tyner were married on Sunday night the 21st of March A. D. 1830.
Willis Tyner and S. C. Greer were married the 20th of December A. D. 1838
Jackson Tyner and Eugenia C. Ligon were married on Tuesday morning the 27th of October 1863.
Column 2
Jackson Tyner, Sr. and Mary Spivey were married the 5th day of March A. D. 1826
William Eugene Huddleston and Hattie Knowles were married the 26th day of November A. D. 1893
Thomas Blanton Winton and Myrtle Beatrice Huddleston were married April 22nd, 1914
Carry Leon Yarbrough and Willie Lee Huddleston were married April 11, 1918
Page 2 Column 1
Jackson Tyner, Jr. was born February 21st A. D., 1816
Eugenia C. Ligon was born February the 14th 1821
Column 2
Willis Tyner was born May 1st A. D. 1810
Frances Tyner was born July 12th A. D. 1811
Eliza Ann Tyner was born April 17th, A. D. 1814
Harriet Tyner was born February 8, A. D. 1818
Matilda Tyner was born 2nd August A. D., 1821
Elizabeth Tyner was born January 29th, A. D. 1827
Sarah Jane Tyner was born December 26th A. D. 1829
Lucy Frances Tyner was born December 11th A. D., 1831
Josiah Jackson Sterling was born February 11th A. D., 1841
Page 3 Column 1
Joseph Tyner was born November 5th, 1829
W. E. Huddleston was born Sept. 18, 1874
Hattie Knowles Huddleston, wife of W. E. Huddleston was born March 11th A. D. 1874.
Velma Ruth Huddleston was born Oct. 20th, 1899
William Eugene Huddleston was born May12th A.D.,1905
Hattie Knowles Huddleston was born Nov. 24, A.D., 1907
Infant daughter of W. E. & Hattie Huddleston was born Nov. 24 A. D., 1907
Column 2
Charlie Huddleston was born May 2, 1870
Lizzie Slaughter, wife of Charlie Huddleston was born Sept. 27, 1872
Herman Perry Huddleston was born Nov. 15, 1893
Myrtle Beatrice Huddleston was born August 13, 1895
Leonard Gaines Huddleston was born April 25, 1897
Willie Lee Huddleston was born Aug. 29, 1899
Charlie Allen Huddleston was born Aug 23, 1901
Minnie Rebecca Huddleston was born Sept. 22, 1902
Thos. Oslin Huddleston was born July 12, 1905
Page 4, Column 1
Matilda Tyner departed this life on Tuesday night the 16th of April A.D., 1839
Demsey Tyner departed this life 13th of October A. D. 1842, aged 87 years
Jackson Tyner, Sr. departed this life on the 2nd December A.D., 1842, aged 66 years
Joseph Tyner departed this life 1840 May 31st, Aged 6months and 20 days
Dudley Youngblood departed this life on the 25th of September 1840, aged 32 years
Column 2
Willis Tyner departed this life on Wednesday night the 2nd of April A.D., 1863. His age fifty three years and eleven months and twenty one days.
John U. Brown departed this life in March
On the Apocrypha of Chapter 1 Esdras
Barbara A. Brown daughter of Ella Brown was born March 13, 1881
John W. Brownson son of Clarah Brown was born Aug. 11th, 1880
203. i. JACKSON TYNER, b. Abt. 1776, Abbeville District, South Carolina, USA; d. December 03, 1842, Meriwether County, Georgia, USA.
204. ii. MARY ANN TYNER, b. August 18, 1780, Georgia, USA; d. Aft. 1871, Cave Springs, Jackson County, Georgia, USA.
iii. WILLIAM TYNER, b. Abt. 1782, North Carolina.
205. iv. JESSE TYNER, b. Abt. 1789, Hamilton County, Tennessee, USA; d. Abt. 1854, Chickasaw Nation, Indian Territory (Oklahoma).
206. v. JOHN S. TYNER, b. Abt. 1789, North Carolina, USA; d. March 03, 1837, Rhea County, Tennessee, USA.
207. vi. OBEDIENCE RHODA TYNER, b. Abt. 1790, Cherokee Territory, North Carolina.
208. vii. REUBEN JACKSON TYNER, b. Abt. 1790, North Carolina, USA; d. March 01, 1867, Indian Territory, Oklahoma, USA.
209. viii. SEVIER BERLIN TYNER, b. Abt. 1792, Ross Landing, Hamilton County, Tennessee; d. Ross Landing, Chataanooga, Hamilton Co., Tennessee.
ix. NATHAN TYNER, b. Abt. 1794, Georgia; m. ELIZABETH ?; b. Abt. 1787.
x. LEROY TYNER, b. Abt. 1798.
210. xi. FANNIE TYNER, b. Abt. 1800, Georgia; d. Bef. 1860, McDonald County, Missouri.
211. xii. LEWIS B. TYNER, b. Abt. 1800, Hamilton County, Tennessee, USA; d. May 13, 1876, Wauhillau, Adair County, Oklahoma, USA.
i. WILLIAM W. PADGETT, b. June 16, 1828.
ii. MARY PADGETT, b. November 20, 1830.
i. TURNER WATSON, b. 1800, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
212. i. SAMUEL PADGETT, b. 1800, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
ii. MARGARET PADGETT, b. 1800, Edgefield County, South Carolina; d. Abt. 1844, Barbour, Alabama.
213. iii. EZEKIAL PADGETT, b. 1805, Edgefield County, South Carolina; d. Abt. 1878, Edgefield County, North Carolina.
iv. HENRY PADGETT, b. Abt. 1812, Edgefield County, South Carolina; d. Barbour, Alabama.
v. LUCINDA PADGETT, b. 1822, Edgefield County, South Carolina; d. March 14, 1859, Barbour, Alabama; m. HENRY SMITH, March 14, 1859; b. Abt. 1818.
vi. CHARITY PADGETT, b. 1823, Edgefield County, South Carolina; m. JAMES STEWART, October 31, 1852, Barbour, Alabama; b. Abt. 1821, Edgefield County, North Carolina.
vii. PERMELIA PADGETT, b. 1825, Edgefield County, South Carolina; m. JAMES STEWART, March 29, 1860, Edgefield County, South Carolina; b. Abt. 1821, Edgefield County, North Carolina.
viii. JOSIAH PADGETT, b. March 19, 1826, Edgefield County, South Carolina; d. April 19, 1874.
Notes for JOSIAH PADGETT:
Some people put this Josiah here; others put him as the son of Josiah Padgett and Sarah Ann Watson. Who's right?
ix. WESTLEY PADGETT, b. 1828, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
i. MEGGY PADGETT.
214. ii. RANEY PADGETT, b. Edgefield County, South Carolina.
iii. ALPHA PADGETT.
iv. RILEY PADGETT.
215. v. LEWIS PADGETT, b. Abt. 1820, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
vi. DRYDEN PADGETT, b. Abt. 1821, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
While hunting fo stray hogs, Josiah suddenly became ill and died a few hours later, per Bob Suddath's WorldTree "Suddath and Freeman Families" at ancestry.com
i. JOSIAH PADGETT, b. March 19, 1826, Edgefield County, South Carolina; d. April 19, 1874, Edgefield County, North Carolina; m. (1) MARY ANN GLASS; m. (2) JEMIMA CORLEY; m. (3) MARTHA ANN ELLEN SUDDATH, October 26, 1855, Edgefield County, North Carolina; b. May 05, 1836, Edgefield County, North Carolina.
ii. SION PADGETT, b. Edgefield County, North Carolina; d. January 05, 1849, Edgefield County, North Carolina.
iii. WILLIAM PADGETT, b. Abt. 1820, Edgefield County, North Carolina; d. March 11, 1844.
Notes for WILLIAM PADGETT:
Per Bob Suddath's WorldTree at ancestry.com, he was killed by a falling tree while clearing new ground.
iv. MANCHESTER PADGETT, b. May 14, 1822, Edgefield County, North Carolina; d. July 28, 1885, Edgefield County, North Carolina; m. (1) SARAH ANN CORLEY; b. Abt. 1835, Edgefield County, North Carolina; m. (2) SUSAN CORLEY, November 10, 1842, Edgefield County, North Carolina; b. Abt. 1822.
v. MILLY PADGETT, b. Abt. 1823, Edgefield County, North Carolina.
216. vi. SARAH ANN PADGETT, b. April 20, 1828, Edgefield County, North Carolina; d. April 16, 1892, Edgefield County, North Carolina.
217. i. RUSSELL PADGETT, b. Abt. 1819, Edgefield County, South Carolina; d. Abt. 1880.
218. ii. WILSON PADGETT, b. 1820, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
iii. MILLEY PADGETT, b. Abt. 1821.
iv. EIDSON PADGETT, b. Abt. 1826.
v. DELILAH PADGETT, b. Abt. 1827.
vi. ELDRIDGE PADGETT, b. Abt. 1827.
219. vii. SAMUEL PADGETT, b. Abt. 1829.
viii. WILBERT PADGETT, b. May 23, 1840.
220. i. EMRIGHT R. PADGETT, b. 1815, Edgefield County, South Carolina; d. 1862, Fayetteville, North Carolina.
ii. WILLIAM BLUITT PADGETT, b. March 1819, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
iii. INFRED PADGETT, b. 1820, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
iv. ANANIAS PADGETT, b. 1828, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
v. MANFRED A. PADGETT, b. 1832.
vi. IRVINGTON R. PADGETT, b. 1834.
vii. ARENTON PADGETT, b. 1845.
viii. TABITHA PADGETT, b. 1847.
ix. ESBENTON PADGETT, b. 1838.
x. EMANUEL MANLEY PADGETT, b. 1840, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
i. SEABORN JONES.
ii. SIMPSON JONES.
221. iii. EZEKIEL JONES, b. Abt. 1810; d. Macon County, Georgia.
iv. JOHN JONES.
222. v. ALEXANDER POPE JONES, b. February 23, 1823, South Carolina; d. July 18, 1909, Taylor County, Georgia.
vi. AMANDA JONES.
i. EZEKIEL PADGETT, b. Abt. 1810.
ii. MAHLON MOUSAN PADGETT, b. March 22, 1813, Batesburg, Moore's Creek, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
iii. DANIEL J. PADGETT.
iv. ELIZABETH C. PADGETT.
v. MELISSA PADGETT.
223. vi. ELIZABETH C. PADGETT, b. Abt. 1841; d. February 21, 1914.
224. vii. GEORGE WASHINGTON PADGETT, b. July 05, 1841; d. January 16, 1922, Randolph County, Alabama, USA.
225. i. MARY ANN WHITTLE, b. November 27, 1827, Clouds Creek, Edgefield County, SC; d. March 29, 1917, Springfield, Orangeburg County, South Carolina.
ii. SAMPSON WHITTLE.
226. i. WESLEY MCGEE, b. Abt. 1825, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
227. ii. ELIZABETH MCGEE, b. February 22, 1822, Edgefield County, South Carolina; d. September 14, 1900, Orangeburg, South Carolina.
iii. READY MCGEE, b. Abt. 1831, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
iv. JANE MCGEE, b. Abt. 1833.
v. ELBERT MCGEE, b. Abt. 1835, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
vi. MATILDA MCGEE, b. Abt. 1838, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
vii. ESBIN MCGEE, b. Abt. 1840, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
i. AMANDA PADGETT, b. Abt. 1828, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
ii. NATHAN A. PADGETT, b. December 1829, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
228. iii. JAMES M. PADGETT, b. September 29, 1832, Edgefield County, South Carolina; d. September 29, 1862, Little Rock, Arkansas.
iv. MARY ANN PADGETT, b. Abt. 1835, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
229. v. WILLIAM J. PADGETT, b. February 11, 1837; d. July 10, 1912, Texas.
vi. ALEXANDER PADGETT, b. Abt. 1838, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
230. vii. CICERO PIXLEY PADGETT, b. Abt. 1840, Edgefield County, South Carolina; d. Abt. 1920, Rusk County, Texas.
viii. SARAH ANN PADGETT, b. Abt. 1842, Alabama.
ix. EMMA ELIZA PADGETT, b. Abt. 1844, Alabama.
231. x. CHESLEY A. PADGETT, b. July 05, 1848, Alabama; d. March 18, 1899, Grand Saline, Van Zandt County, Texas.
xi. ANDREW PADGETT, b. Abt. 1850, Alabama.
232. xii. TEXAS ELLEN PADGETT, b. Abt. 1852, Texas; d. Aft. 1900, Van Zandt County, Texas.
xiii. MARTHA ELIZABETH PADGETT, b. July 02, 1854, Van Zandt County, Texas.
According to Bela Herlong, William Padgett left Edgefield County at the age of just 19 years old after requesting and receiving part of his inheritance from his father to make his fortune in Hamburg near Augusta due to being the youngest son and not in line to receive an inheritance. He bought ten acres and a little store that he enlarged. He ran it for three years and was very successful. By 1850, he had returned to Edgefield County and gained control of his father's estate which forced his brothers; Job, Jr, and Chesley to depart for Georgia and Alabama where they remained. William owned several plantations including one at Mt. Willing near Sardis Baptist Church (where he is buried) and owned many slaves whose descendants still live near Saluda. These slaves started Mt. Moses Baptist Church which is still active today.
In the 1860 South Carolina census for Edgefield Co., William has $30,000 real estate, $44,000 personal estate.
His will was administered in 1884 by Dr. John E. Padgett.
i. JAMES D. PADGETT, b. Abt. 1821.
233. ii. MARY ANN PADGETT, b. April 17, 1825, Edgefield County, South Carolina; d. February 27, 1889, Newton, Georgia.
234. iii. JOHN ETHELBERT PADGETT, b. January 26, 1824, Edgefield County, South Carolina; d. April 03, 1875, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
235. iv. TILLMAN DAVIS PADGETT, b. August 14, 1826, Edgefield County, South Carolina; d. June 04, 1881, Edgefield County, South Carolina.
v. MARGARET ELEANOR PADGETT, b. February 03, 1835.
236. vi. DAVID WILLIAM PADGETT, b. September 13, 1836, Edgefield County, South Carolina; d. March 31, 1913, Saluda County, South Carolina.
237. vii. MAHLON DEMARCUS PADGETT, b. January 26, 1838, Edgefield County, South Carolina; d. August 30, 1908, Batesburg, South Carolina.
viii. ELIZA PADGETT, b. Abt. 1859.
ix. WILLIAM B. PADGETT, b. 1860.
x. DAVIS JACKSON PADGETT, b. April 24, 1861.
xi. EUGENIA PADGETT, b. 1863.
xii. JOSEPH JOB PADGETT, b. July 18, 1868.
xiii. CLYDE P. PADGETT, b. December 05, 1877.
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